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Closing an S-Corporation with Uncollectible Shareholder Debt - Most Efficient Way?

I've got a single-member S-Corp that I'm trying to wind down properly. Here's the situation: I've loaned the S-Corp about $27,000 over time, and there's roughly $8,500 in accrued unpaid interest on that loan. The company has now sold off its final assets, paid all third-party creditors, and has about $7,000 cash remaining. There are no other assets or liabilities. Due to a step-up in basis from an estate situation a few years back, I currently have approximately $135,000 outside equity basis in the S-Corp. I'm trying to figure out the most tax-efficient way to dissolve this corporation: - Can the S-Corp make a "non-taxable" distribution to me (the shareholder) instead of calling it a debt payment to avoid interest income/interest expense? - Should I formally cancel the debt and have the S-Corp take a Section 108 insolvency exclusion? - Would converting the debt to equity make sense (which seems essentially the same as cancelling the debt)? - I'm assuming I can't recognize a bad debt expense given the related party nature of this loan. - From what I understand, I should be able to take a capital loss on my remaining outside basis. Am I missing anything or are there any traps I should watch out for to close this down correctly? Thanks for any insight!

You've got a few options here, but let's break this down simply. When you dissolve an S-Corporation, any distributions are first applied against your basis in the company's stock. Since you have a $135,000 basis but only $7,000 in assets to distribute, this distribution will be non-taxable to you regardless of whether you call it a debt repayment or a regular distribution. If you're concerned about the debt treatment, you could formally cancel the debt before dissolution. The S-Corp would recognize cancellation of debt income, but since the company appears to be insolvent (debts exceed assets), the Section 108 insolvency exclusion would likely apply. This income would ultimately pass through to you on the final K-1, but would be offset by your substantial basis. Converting debt to equity is another option, but at this stage of dissolution, it might add unnecessary complexity. For your basis, you're right that you'll have a capital loss on your investment. The final $7,000 distribution reduces your $135,000 basis, leaving you with a $128,000 capital loss when the company is formally dissolved. Just make sure you properly document everything and file Form 966 (Corporate Dissolution or Liquidation) with the IRS, along with your final corporate tax return.

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Thanks for the breakdown. I'm confused about one thing though - if I decide to cancel the debt, doesn't that create some kind of income to the corporation? And then would that somehow get passed to me personally since it's an S-Corp? Also, is there any benefit to treating the final $7k as loan repayment vs just a distribution?

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When you cancel debt, the corporation would technically have cancellation of debt income. However, since the corporation appears to be insolvent (debts exceed assets), the Section 108 insolvency exclusion would apply, meaning the corporation wouldn't actually have taxable income from the debt cancellation. Whether you treat the $7,000 as a loan repayment or distribution doesn't make much practical difference in your case. A loan repayment isn't taxable, and a distribution would be non-taxable as well since it's less than your stock basis. The loan repayment approach might be slightly cleaner from a documentation standpoint, showing you recovered at least part of your loan before dissolving the business.

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I went through this exact scenario last year. One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure your loan to the corporation was properly documented with a written promissory note, specified interest rate, and repayment terms. If you're audited, the IRS might recharacterize poorly documented "loans" as equity contributions. If your loan documentation is solid, my CPA recommended applying the remaining $7,000 as a partial loan repayment rather than a distribution. Then formally forgive the remaining $20,000+ as part of the dissolution. Also, don't forget about state-specific requirements for dissolving the company - some states require a tax clearance certificate before accepting dissolution paperwork.

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How much of an issue is it if my "loan" to the company wasn't properly documented with a formal promissory note? I basically just transferred money from my personal account to the business account when needed and tracked it in QuickBooks as "shareholder loans". Will this cause problems when dissolving?

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This could definitely be an issue. Without formal loan documentation, the IRS may reclassify your "loans" as capital contributions, which means the $7,000 would be treated entirely as a distribution rather than a loan repayment. For future reference, loans should have a written promissory note with stated interest rates, maturity dates, and repayment terms. There should also be evidence of an intention to repay (like some history of payments, even if small). At this point, you might want to work with your accountant to create loan documentation retroactively (dated appropriately) if you had a clear understanding that these were loans. While not ideal, having some documentation is better than none. Be aware though that retroactive documentation might not stand up in an audit - it depends on other factors like how the transfers were treated in your books and tax returns consistently over time.

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Has anyone dealt with their state's abandoned property laws when dissolving? I'm in a similar situation, and was told that if you can't repay all the shareholder loans, the unpaid portion might need to be reported as abandoned property to the state after dissolution. Seems crazy but my accountant mentioned it.

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That doesn't sound right. Abandoned property laws typically apply to things like uncashed checks, unused gift cards, dormant bank accounts, etc. If you're formally forgiving a loan as part of a business dissolution, that's a documented transaction, not abandoned property. Sounds like your accountant might be confusing some concepts here.

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One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet is the timing of your dissolution. Since you have substantial outside basis ($135K) and are only getting $7K back, you'll have a significant capital loss. Make sure you understand the capital loss limitations - you can only deduct $3K per year against ordinary income, with the remainder carried forward. Given the size of your loss, this could take decades to fully utilize unless you have capital gains to offset it against. Also, regarding the debt vs. distribution question - since you're the sole shareholder, the tax result is essentially the same. However, from a documentation standpoint, I'd recommend treating the $7K as a partial loan repayment and then formally canceling the remaining debt. This creates a cleaner paper trail showing you attempted to collect what you could before forgiving the balance. Don't forget to file Form 966 within 30 days of adopting the plan of liquidation, and make sure your final 1120S properly reflects the debt cancellation income (even if excluded under Section 108) and the corresponding basis adjustments on your K-1.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was looking for! The point about capital loss limitations is crucial - I hadn't fully considered that a $128K capital loss would take over 40 years to fully utilize at $3K per year unless I have offsetting gains. Your suggestion about treating the $7K as partial loan repayment makes sense from a documentation perspective. Should I prepare a formal debt forgiveness letter for the remaining balance, or is there a specific IRS form for canceling shareholder debt during dissolution? Also, when you mention Form 966 needs to be filed within 30 days of "adopting the plan of liquidation" - is that when I make the decision to dissolve, or when I file the actual dissolution paperwork with my state?

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