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S Corp Tax Filing Help: Form 1125-E Requirements for High Revenue with No Officer Compensation

I've owned a 100% S corporation since 2020 that generated over $500,000 in gross revenue this past year, but I'm confused about Form 1125-E (Compensation of Officers). Here's the thing - I've never paid myself a single dollar, either through distributions or W-2 wages. I've basically been reinvesting everything back into growing the business. Do I still need to complete and submit Form 1125-E even though I didn't take any officer compensation? The instructions seem unclear to me since technically I am an officer (the only one) but with zero compensation to report. This is my fifth year filing S corp returns and I want to make sure I'm doing it correctly. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I'm using tax software but it's giving me mixed signals about whether this form is required in my situation.

Yes, you should still file Form 1125-E even with zero compensation. Since your S corporation exceeded $500,000 in gross receipts, the form is required regardless of whether you took compensation or not. You would simply fill it out showing yourself as an officer with $0 in compensation. However, I'm more concerned about the fact that you haven't taken ANY compensation for five years while having substantial gross revenue. The IRS expects S corporation officer-shareholders to take "reasonable compensation" through W-2 wages before taking any distributions. Even if you're not taking distributions either, this could be a red flag for the IRS, as they might view this as an attempt to avoid payroll taxes.

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CyberSamurai

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Wait, really? I thought since I'm not taking any money out of the business at all (no distributions either), I wouldn't need to pay myself a salary. I've just been letting the profits accumulate in the business account to fund growth. Is that actually a problem with the IRS?

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Yes, this could definitely be a problem. The IRS expects S corporation shareholders who provide services to receive reasonable compensation regardless of whether distributions are taken. When an S corp has substantial revenue like yours and the owner-officer takes no salary, it raises red flags. The IRS could reclassify some of your accumulated business profits as "constructive dividends" and assert that you should have been paying yourself a reasonable salary all along. This could result in back payroll taxes, penalties, and interest. I'd recommend consulting with a tax professional specifically about implementing a reasonable compensation structure going forward and possibly addressing the past years.

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Jamal Carter

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Mei Liu

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How does the document upload work? Can you just send PDFs of previous returns, or do they need all the backup documentation too? My CPA retired and I'm trying to figure this out myself now.

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Can they actually help fix issues from previous years or just tell you what you did wrong? I'm in a similar boat where I haven't taken salary from my S corp for a couple years.

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Jamal Carter

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The document upload is super simple - you just drag and drop your tax returns or financial statements as PDFs. I uploaded my previous 1120S returns and some profit/loss statements. You don't need to provide every single receipt or anything that detailed. Their system not only identifies problems but provides specific recommendations for fixing them. In my case, they showed me exactly how to establish reasonable compensation going forward and gave me options for addressing previous years, including potential amended returns. They even have templates for documenting your compensation decisions to strengthen your position if you get audited.

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I have to follow up on my previous comment because I decided to try taxr.ai after all. I'm really glad I did! My situation was almost identical - S corp with good revenue but I hadn't been taking a salary. The analysis confirmed I was at high risk for audit and provided clear steps to fix it. What I found most helpful was their industry-specific compensation benchmarking. They showed me exactly what the IRS would consider "reasonable compensation" in my field based on my revenue, which was eye-opening. They even helped me draft a corporate resolution to document my compensation decisions going forward. Definitely worth checking out if you're in a similar situation with your S corp.

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AstroExplorer

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Wait, how does this actually work? Are they just calling the IRS for you? Couldn't you just do that yourself and save whatever they charge?

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I'm calling BS on this. No way they're getting through to the IRS that fast when everyone knows the hold times are ridiculous. Sounds like a scam to me.

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Amara Nwosu

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I need to eat some humble pie here. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try Claimyr because I was completely stuck on my S corp issues and couldn't get through to the IRS after multiple attempts. It actually worked exactly as advertised. I got connected to an IRS representative in about 35 minutes (would have been hours on my own if I got through at all). The agent walked me through exactly what I needed to do about Form 1125-E and confirmed that having $0 compensation with significant revenue would likely trigger review. They also explained how to document my compensation decisions properly to avoid issues. Honestly, I'm still surprised it worked so well. Saved me a ton of time and stress.

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Just wanted to share something important for S corps - the IRS has been increasingly auditing S corporations that show significant profit but little to no officer compensation. There was a tax court case (Watson v. Commissioner) where the court sided with the IRS on this exact issue. If you've got $500K+ in revenue and aren't paying yourself ANYTHING, you should definitely consult with a tax professional ASAP. The potential tax bill with penalties could be significant if they decide to reclassify business income as wages retroactively.

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CyberSamurai

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This is concerning me now. Would the IRS really go back all 5 years? The business has been profitable but we've been in growth mode and I've been living off personal savings. Should I consider filing amended returns for previous years or just start paying myself going forward?

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The statute of limitations for the IRS is generally 3 years, but it can be extended to 6 years in some cases. So yes, they could potentially examine all 5 years of your S corp returns. I'd recommend consulting with a tax professional immediately to assess your specific situation. Often, the best approach is to start doing things correctly going forward while also determining if amended returns make sense. The key is being proactive - if you address this before the IRS contacts you, you'll typically face much better outcomes than if they find the issue during an audit.

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Dylan Cooper

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I was in a similar situation with my S corp and almost got nailed in an audit. Even though the instructions for 1125-E say to file it if gross receipts are over $500K, the bigger issue is definitely the lack of reasonable compensation. My accountant now has me document WHY I'm paying myself the amount I do each year with comparable salary data for my industry. This has been super helpful in justifying my compensation decisions.

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Sofia Perez

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What kind of documentation do you keep exactly? I'm worried I might be in a similar situation and want to start fixing things the right way.

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Andre Dupont

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I keep a detailed compensation analysis file that includes salary surveys from sites like PayScale and Glassdoor for my position/industry, documentation of my actual duties and hours worked, and a written justification for my compensation level that gets updated annually. My CPA also helps me prepare a "reasonable compensation study" that compares my salary to similar businesses in my area and industry. The key is being able to show the IRS that you put thought into the decision rather than just picking an arbitrary number. I also document any changes in responsibilities or business performance that might affect compensation from year to year. It's extra work, but much better than trying to justify your decisions during an audit without any supporting documentation.

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GalaxyGuardian

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Based on this discussion, I'm really concerned about my situation too. I've been running my S corp for 3 years with similar revenue levels but zero officer compensation. Reading about the Watson case and the potential for retroactive reclassification has me pretty worried. I think I need to take action immediately - both filing Form 1125-E correctly (showing $0 compensation) and establishing reasonable compensation going forward. The documentation approach that Andre mentioned sounds like exactly what I need to implement. Has anyone here actually gone through the process of fixing this retroactively? I'm wondering if I should reach out to a tax professional who specializes in S corp compliance or if there are specific steps I should take first. The potential penalties and back taxes are keeping me up at night!

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