Renting apartment below fair market value - Is it considered a rental property for tax purposes?
So I've got this apartment outside the US that I rented to a friend for all of 2023 at below fair market value. When doing my taxes in TurboTax, I selected "Rental Properties and Royalties (Sch E)" option. During the interview process, TurboTax asked me two specific questions: 1. Days rented at a fair rental price 2. Personal use during the year Since I'm renting it below fair market value to my friend, I put "0" for both questions. TurboTax still continued with the interview, and I entered all my expenses, total rent collected, etc. This resulted in a significant loss on paper. From what I've been reading, if a property is rented below fair market value, it's actually considered a personal property, not a rental property for tax purposes. Is this true? If so, why did TurboTax still treat it as a rental property? I'm confused about this. After some research, I realized question #2 should have been 365 days, which would make it a personal property, not a rental. But I'm still unsure about the tax implications. My friend only pays the maintenance fees as rent - nothing directly to me. I would have paid these maintenance fees anyway even if the apartment was empty. Other expenses like property taxes and insurance actually result in an overall loss. I'm not worried about claiming the loss, but someone told me I need to report the maintenance fees as income without being able to deduct any expenses (even from that income). This contradicts what a TurboTax rep told me: "When you rent below fair market price, you would be considered to be renting 'not for profit.' If your expenses (mortgage interest plus property taxes) were more than the rent you received, you are not required to report the income." I'm taking the standard deduction if that matters. Thanks for any help!
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Liam Fitzgerald
What you're dealing with is what the IRS calls "not-for-profit" rental activity, which is different from a true rental property. When you rent below fair market value (especially to friends/family), the IRS views this as a personal arrangement rather than a business venture. Here's what this means for your taxes: The rental income (those maintenance fees your friend pays) technically should be reported as "Other Income" on Schedule 1, not on Schedule E. However, there's an exception - if your expenses (specifically mortgage interest and property taxes) exceed the rental income, you don't need to report the income at all. For your expenses, you can't claim rental losses when it's not-for-profit, but you can still deduct your mortgage interest and property taxes on Schedule A if you itemize. Since you're taking the standard deduction, you won't get any tax benefit from these expenses. The reason TurboTax continued with the interview is that the software isn't always smart enough to catch these nuanced situations. When you entered "0" for both fair rental days and personal use days, it should have flagged this as an error since every day must be categorized somehow.
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Amara Nnamani
•Wait, so if I'm understanding correctly, if the maintenance fees (the only "income" being received) are less than the mortgage interest and property taxes, then there's no need to report any income at all? But what if there is no mortgage on the property, just property taxes and insurance? Does that change things?
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Liam Fitzgerald
•You're understanding correctly - if the maintenance fees are less than your mortgage interest and property taxes combined, you don't need to report that income. If there's no mortgage on the property, then you'd only compare the maintenance fees to your property taxes (not insurance). If the maintenance fees exceed your property taxes, you would report the difference as "Other Income" on Schedule 1. Insurance isn't one of the expenses that the IRS considers in this particular calculation for not-for-profit rentals.
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Giovanni Mancini
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NebulaNinja
•Does it work for foreign rental properties too? I have a condo in Canada that I rent to my sister way below market rate and I'm completely lost on how to report it. Would taxr.ai be able to handle international properties?
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How is this different from TurboTax? They both seem to ask the same questions. Does it actually give you different/better guidance than TurboTax on this specific issue?
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Giovanni Mancini
•Yes, it absolutely works for foreign rental properties. It specifically asks about property location and has special handling for international rentals. It covers all the additional forms and reporting requirements that come with foreign property. The main difference from TurboTax is that this isn't a full tax prep software - it's specifically focused on analyzing tax documents and situations. It caught things TurboTax missed in my situation because it's built to identify these edge cases. For below-market rentals specifically, it immediately identified it as not-for-profit and showed me the correct way to report it, whereas TurboTax kept treating it as regular Schedule E rental.
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NebulaNinja
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Ava Garcia
TurboTax missed this for me too last year. The key is understanding that below market value rentals (especially to friends/family) fall under IRC Section 280A(g), which is a specific provision for "not-for-profit" rentals. The reason TurboTax got confused is because you put 0 for both fair rental days AND personal use days, which can't both be true (the property exists somewhere for 365 days). For below market rentals, you should classify all days as personal use days (365) even though someone else is living there. Also, your maintenance fees aren't technically rental income - they're reimbursement of expenses. If your friend is ONLY paying maintenance fees that you'd pay anyway, and nothing extra to you, the IRS would likely view this as cost sharing rather than rental income.
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Mei Lin
•This makes so much sense now! So I should have put 365 for personal use days even though I never actually used the apartment myself. No wonder TurboTax was confused. So just to be clear - since my friend is only covering the maintenance fees (which I would pay regardless) and that amount is less than my property taxes, I don't need to report any income at all? And I can still claim the property taxes if I were to itemize deductions instead of taking the standard deduction?
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Ava Garcia
•Exactly! For tax purposes, "personal use" includes use by anyone paying less than fair market rent. So even though you weren't physically there, it's still considered personal use days when rented below market value. That's correct - since the maintenance fees are less than your property taxes AND you're only being reimbursed for expenses you'd pay anyway, you don't need to report any income. And yes, you could still claim the property taxes if you itemized instead of taking the standard deduction. The property is still considered a personal residence for tax purposes.
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StarSailor}
I'm confused about one thing - if the apartment is outside the US, don't you have to report it on FBAR and Form 8938 regardless of whether it's rental or personal? My accountant told me all foreign properties need to be disclosed even if they don't generate income.
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Miguel Silva
•Foreign property itself isn't reportable on FBAR or 8938 - those forms are for foreign financial accounts and assets. You'd only report the foreign bank account used to receive rental income or pay expenses. The property itself is reported on Schedule E if it's a rental or not at all if it's personal. The foreign rental income would be reported on your tax return regardless of whether it's held in a foreign account or not. But the FBAR/8938 reporting is about the accounts, not the property.
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Mei Lin
•That's actually a good point I hadn't considered. I do have a foreign bank account I use for collecting the maintenance fees and paying property expenses. I'll need to make sure I'm reporting that correctly. Thanks for bringing this up!
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Maggie Martinez
This is a really complex situation that highlights how confusing tax software can be with edge cases. You're absolutely right that TurboTax should have caught this - when you entered "0" for both fair rental days and personal use days, that's mathematically impossible since the property exists somewhere for 365 days. Based on what others have explained here, it sounds like you need to go back and correct your filing. You should enter 365 days for personal use (since below-market rentals to friends/family are considered personal use), which would take you out of the Schedule E rental property track entirely. The good news is that if your maintenance fees are less than your property taxes, you likely don't need to report any income at all. But you should definitely get professional help or use one of the tools mentioned here to make sure you're handling the foreign aspects correctly - there are additional considerations for foreign properties that go beyond just the rental vs. personal determination. Don't feel bad about the confusion - this is one of those areas where the tax code is genuinely unclear and even tax professionals sometimes get it wrong!
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Malik Jackson
•This is such a helpful summary of everything discussed here! I'm definitely going to need to amend my return. One question though - when I go back to correct this in TurboTax, should I completely start over with the rental property section, or is there a way to edit it to change from 0/0 days to 365 personal use days? I'm worried about messing up other parts of my return if I have to delete and restart that whole section. Also, does anyone know if there are penalties for having filed this incorrectly initially? I'm not trying to avoid taxes - I actually reported a loss that I apparently shouldn't have been able to claim anyway. Just want to make sure I handle the correction properly.
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