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Paolo Conti

Received IRS notice demanding $19k payment - mistake on 1040 from investment portfolio transfer

Just opened a letter from the IRS saying we owe $19,000. This nightmare seems to be related to our 2022 form 1040. My husband and I transferred our investment accounts to a different brokerage that year. Looks like we totally missed including the 1099 from the new brokerage when we went to our accountant, even though I had downloaded it and saved it in our "Tax Docs" folder on the computer. Earlier this year (around February), we got that first IRS letter saying our tax return didn't match their records. That's when we realized our mistake with the missing 1099. We immediately filed an amendment through our accountant who calculated we owed about $4k in additional taxes. It stung, but we paid it online through the IRS website and figured that was the end of it - lesson learned about being more careful with forms. But yesterday's mail brought another notice saying: "Thank you for your response to our previous notice. Based on your response, we've determined you owe $19,000 (including interest), which you will need to pay by September a10, 2024." I forwarded everything to our accountant who's looking at it today, but I'm freaking out about this huge jump from $4k to $19k! What else should I be doing? Has anyone dealt with something similar?

This sounds like a classic case of the IRS's automated matching system identifying a discrepancy and then assessing taxes at the highest possible rate because they don't know the specific details of your situation. When you transfer investments between brokerages, the IRS often receives information that makes it look like you sold everything (triggering capital gains) when in reality you just moved the assets. Here's what you should do: First, make sure your accountant compares the original 1099 from your new brokerage with what the IRS is claiming. The IRS notice should include a document explaining exactly what they think you failed to report. Second, request an account transcript from the IRS (can be done online) to see exactly what they've recorded for your 2022 tax year. Third, consider requesting a payment plan or temporary delay if the due date is approaching - this prevents collection actions while you resolve the dispute. Don't panic. The $19,000 assessment is almost certainly incorrect if you've already addressed the missing 1099 issue.

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Thanks for this insight. How long does the IRS typically take to process an amended return? We submitted ours about 6 months ago but it seems like they didn't actually process it before sending this new bill. Also, should I be calling the IRS directly or just let my accountant handle everything?

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Amended returns are taking anywhere from 6-12 months to process right now, sometimes longer. Your amended return is likely still in the queue while their automated notices continue to go out - this happens frequently and is frustrating but fixable. I recommend having your accountant take the lead since they understand the technical details, but you should also consider calling the IRS yourself to request a hold on collections while your amended return is being processed. The IRS can flag your account with a processing delay code that prevents further collection notices while they sort out your amended return.

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How long did it take for them to analyze your documents? I'm dealing with something similar but my notice says I only have 30 days to respond.

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Don't ignore this notice! I made that mistake thinking my amended return would "catch up" eventually. Ended up with a tax lien and it was a nightmare to fix. Even if you've already addressed the issue, you need to respond to this specific notice in writing. Make sure your response includes: 1) Your explanation about the investment transfer 2) Copies of both 1099s (old and new brokerage) 3) A copy of your amended return with proof of filing 4) Proof of the $4k payment you already made Send everything certified mail so you have proof of delivery. Also call the number on the notice and request a temporary collection hold while they review your documentation.

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Thank you for this advice - you're right that I should respond directly to this notice rather than assuming they'll eventually process the amendment. Did you have to get tax transcripts to resolve your situation? Someone else mentioned those and I'm not sure if I need them.

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Yes, tax transcripts were really helpful in my case. They show exactly what the IRS has in their system versus what you filed. You can request them online through the IRS website or have your accountant get them. The transcript will show if your amended return is in their system and whether your $4k payment was properly applied. The other thing to consider is requesting a formal appeal or audit reconsideration. This creates a separate track for resolving your case rather than just waiting for the amendment to be processed, which can take forever. Your accountant should be familiar with this process. The key is to be proactive rather than reactive - don't just wait for the IRS to figure it out.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - make sure all your cost basis information transferred correctly when you switched brokerages. Sometimes the receiving brokerage doesn't get that data properly, which means the IRS only sees the gross proceeds from sales and assumes your entire proceeds are taxable gain. I had exactly this issue after switching from Vanguard to Fidelity. The 1099 looked normal to me, but when I looked closer, some of my long-held positions showed zero cost basis. Had to contact Fidelity to get them to correct the information they'd sent to the IRS.

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This is excellent advice. I'm a tax preparer and see this issue multiple times every tax season. The IRS computers just match document numbers, so if the cost basis isn't properly reported, they'll tax the entire proceeds as gain.

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