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Layla Mendes

PPP Loan Eligibility for Sole Proprietor with no Employees - Calculating Loan Amount

I'm looking for some clarity on stimulus options since my side business has taken a hit recently. I work a regular full-time job (W2) making around $78k annually, but for the past four years, I've also been doing some consulting work on the side for a previous employer. It's mainly data analysis using Excel and some basic reporting. I operate as a Sole Proprietor with no employees, and they send me a 1099 each year. This side gig typically brings in about $6500 annually with minimal expenses. Unfortunately, due to economic conditions this year, I'm pretty certain I won't be getting any of this consulting work. I've heard that as a Sole Proprietor with no employees, I might qualify for a PPP Loan and potential forgiveness to replace this lost income. Am I understanding this correctly? If I am eligible, would I just use the figures from my Schedule C to calculate my monthly "payroll" costs for the application? Are there any other factors or specific documentation I should consider when applying? I want to make sure I'm handling this properly and not missing anything important on the application.

You're on the right track with your understanding of PPP for sole proprietors. As a Schedule C filer with no employees, your "payroll cost" is essentially your net profit from your business. To calculate your loan amount, you'd take Line 31 on your Schedule C (net profit) from your most recent tax filing, divide by 12 to get a monthly amount, then multiply by 2.5. That gives you your maximum PPP loan amount. For example, if your Schedule C showed $6,500 in net profit, that's about $541.67 monthly, so your loan amount would be around $1,354. For forgiveness, you'll need to use at least 60% of the funds for "owner compensation replacement" (basically paying yourself), and the remaining 40% can go toward eligible business expenses like rent, utilities, or business mortgage interest if you have any. Make sure you have your previous year's tax return with Schedule C ready when you apply, plus your 1099s and bank statements showing the business income. Some lenders might ask for additional documentation showing the economic impact to your business.

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Aria Park

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Thanks for the info! Do you know if having a W2 job affects the eligibility at all? Like does the fact that they have regular employment income make a difference in qualifying for the PPP for their side gig?

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Having a W2 job doesn't disqualify you from getting PPP for your sole proprietorship. The programs are designed to help business owners regardless of other income sources. Your eligibility is based solely on your business activity as a self-employed individual. Remember that you'll need to certify that "current economic uncertainty makes the loan necessary to support your ongoing operations." Given that you've lost your consulting income, this would be a truthful certification. The SBA guidance is clear that sole proprietors with no employees are eligible for PPP based on their net profit from Schedule C.

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Just a reminder that PPP has specific requirements for forgiveness. Make sure you're documenting how you use the funds! For sole props with no employees, it's actually pretty straightforward: You can claim up to 8 weeks of your average weekly net profit from Schedule C as "owner compensation replacement" (this would be your entire loan amount if you have no other eligible expenses). Keep records showing you transferred the PPP funds to a personal account as "owner compensation" over an 8-24 week period. The remainder can be used for business rent, utilities, etc. but keep ALL receipts and documentation. Some lenders are really scrutinizing sole prop forgiveness applications.

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Drake

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Do you happen to know if health insurance premiums for yourself (the sole prop) count as eligible expenses for the remaining 40%? I've been getting conflicting information.

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For sole proprietors with no employees, health insurance premiums for yourself do NOT count as an additional eligible expense for the 40% portion. This is because health insurance for the owner is already factored into your net profit calculation on Schedule C. The eligible expenses for the 40% portion are limited to business mortgage interest, rent or lease payments, and utilities that were in place before February 15, 2020. The rules are a bit different for businesses with employees, which is probably why you've been seeing conflicting information. Always best to check with your specific lender since they'll be the ones processing your forgiveness application.

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Sarah Jones

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Has anyone actually received PPP as a sole proprietor without employees and also having a W2 job? I'm in the exact same boat (full-time job + side business as sole prop) and my bank (Chase) keeps giving me the runaround saying I don't qualify. They're saying because I have W2 income, my side business hasn't been "substantially affected" enough to qualify.

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I got PPP for my sole prop photography business while having a full-time W2 job. Your bank is wrong - there's nothing in the PPP rules that disqualifies you for having W2 income. Try applying through a smaller bank or credit union, or one of the fintech lenders like BlueVine or Kabbage. I applied through BlueVine after BofA gave me similar pushback and was approved in 3 days.

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