How Does PPP Loan Forgiveness Affect Taxation for Different Business Structures?
I've been trying to understand the tax implications of PPP loan forgiveness and I'm completely confused by conflicting information. I know initially everyone said forgiven PPP loans wouldn't be considered taxable income, but then I read something from the IRS saying expenses paid with those funds can't be deducted - which basically makes them taxable anyway, right? I'm especially confused about how this works for sole proprietors with Schedule C. If I received approximately $25,000 in PPP funds, and about $19,000 of that is automatically forgiven to cover my "owner compensation," how does that actually work tax-wise? Since I don't technically process payroll for myself as a Schedule C filer, does this mean that portion is truly tax-free both for my business and personally? Or is there some equivalent rule the IRS has for Schedule C filers? Here's a specific example to clarify what I'm asking: If someone with an S Corp gets $25,000 PPP loan with $19,000 forgiven for payroll, it might be a wash at the company level (income from forgiveness cancels out payroll expense), but that $19,000 is still taxable as personal income to the owner who received it. But for a Schedule C filer getting the same $25,000 PPP loan with $19,000 forgiven, there's no formal "payroll" process. Does this mean the Schedule C business doesn't count it as taxable income AND the owner doesn't pay personal tax on it either? Could you then still deduct other business expenses later in the year that you pay with that cash? It seems like Schedule C filers might be getting better tax treatment here, and I want to make sure I understand correctly.
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Dylan Hughes
The PPP loan forgiveness tax situation has definitely created a lot of confusion! Let me try to clear things up. For sole proprietors filing Schedule C, the IRS guidance means forgiven PPP loans themselves won't be counted as taxable income, but you're right that the expenses paid with PPP funds can't be deducted. This essentially creates a "wash" - you don't pay tax on the forgiveness, but you lose deductions you would have normally taken. For your specific example with Schedule C filers: When you receive owner compensation replacement through PPP, it doesn't create taxable income to you personally (unlike S Corp payroll which flows through to your personal return as wages). However, you won't be able to claim those same expenses as deductions on your Schedule C. So if you received $19,000 for owner compensation, you'd effectively lose $19,000 in deductions you would have otherwise claimed on your Schedule C. The remaining portion (the $6,000 in your example) that covered utilities, rent, etc., follows the same principle - not taxable forgiveness, but those specific expenses aren't deductible. So while the mechanics are different between S Corps and Schedule C filers, the end tax result should be similar - neither gets a true "double benefit" of tax-free money AND expense deductions.
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NightOwl42
•But wait, I'm still confused about the Schedule C situation. If I normally just report all my business income and then take deductions, how exactly do I "not deduct" the owner compensation portion? There's no line item for that on Schedule C. Do I just add back that amount to my net profit? And what about for 2025 tax filings - is this still relevant for any lingering PPP issues?
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Dylan Hughes
•For Schedule C filers, you'd effectively reduce your business expense deductions by the amount of PPP funds used. For example, if you received $19,000 for owner compensation, you wouldn't have a specific "add-back" for that since owner compensation isn't a deductible expense on Schedule C anyway. Your business income flows through to you regardless. For other expenses like rent or utilities that were paid with PPP funds, you would not include those specific expenses on the appropriate expense lines of your Schedule C. For 2025 filings, this is mostly historical as the PPP program has ended, but if you had any forgiveness finalized in 2024 that you're reporting in your 2025 filing, the same principles apply - forgiveness isn't taxable but expenses paid with those funds aren't deductible.
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•Does it work for S Corps too? My accountant gave me contradicting advice last year about my PPP loan and I ended up paying way more in taxes than I think I should have. Would this help me determine if I should file an amended return?
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Sofia Rodriguez
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Yara Nassar
Something nobody has mentioned yet - Congress actually passed a law in December 2024 that DOES allow deductions for expenses paid with forgiven PPP loans. The IRS initially said these expenses weren't deductible (as everyone mentioned above), but the law overruled the IRS position. So the current rule is: 1) PPP loan forgiveness is not taxable income, AND 2) You CAN deduct business expenses paid with PPP loan funds. This applies to both Schedule C filers and other business entities. So there isn't a special advantage for sole proprietors anymore - everyone gets the same favorable tax treatment.
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Fatima Al-Sayed
•Wait, are you serious?! That's completely different from what I understood and what others have said here. Do you have a source for this? This would be amazing news if true, but I want to make sure before I file my taxes this way.
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Yara Nassar
•Yes, absolutely serious. The provision was included in the COVID-related Tax Relief Act of 2024, which clarified that "no deduction shall be denied, no tax attribute shall be reduced, and no basis increase shall be denied, by reason of the exclusion from gross income." The IRS then issued Revenue Ruling 2025-02 confirming this treatment. You can deduct all ordinary business expenses paid with PPP loan proceeds, AND the loan forgiveness itself is not taxable income. It was specifically designed to provide maximum tax benefit to struggling businesses. This overruled the IRS's earlier position which had created the situation described in the original post. Congress decided businesses needed the additional tax relief.
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StarGazer101
Question for tax experts here - I had partial PPP loan forgiveness (about 70% was forgiven). How does that affect my tax situation? Do I only get to deduct expenses proportional to the unforgiven amount?
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Dylan Hughes
•For partial PPP forgiveness, only the forgiven portion receives the special tax treatment. The unforgiven portion is treated as a regular loan. So if 70% was forgiven, that portion isn't taxable income AND (per the correction above about the COVID-related Tax Relief Act) you can still deduct expenses paid with those funds. For the 30% unforgiven portion, you'll eventually repay that with after-tax dollars, but you can deduct the interest paid on that portion as a business expense. Just make sure you keep detailed records showing which expenses were allocated to the forgiven portion in your forgiveness application, as that documentation will be crucial if you're ever audited.
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