PEO Workaround for S-Corp SEHI Deduction - Legitimate or IRS Loophole?
I've got an interesting situation with my S-Corp clients that I wanted to get some thoughts on. The business has two main shareholders (both with around 45% ownership) who run the day-to-day operations. Both of their spouses have regular W-2 jobs with employers that offer qualifying health insurance plans, which makes these shareholders ineligible for the Self-Employed Health Insurance (SEHI) deduction. Here's where it gets interesting - a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) approached them with a proposition. They're claiming that if both shareholders get paid through the PEO and get their insurance through the PEO's plan, then this wouldn't count as self-employed health insurance. This means their premiums wouldn't need to be included in box 1 of their W-2s, unlike the normal situation where the S-Corp pays those premiums directly. This sounds too good to be true, right? I can't imagine the IRS would allow such an obvious workaround. My instinct says that if an employee owns 2%+ of the actual employer (the S-Corp), they'd still have to follow the standard self-employed health insurance rules regardless of the PEO involvement. Has anyone dealt with this PEO situation before? Is there any legitimate tax advantage here or is the PEO just trying to make a sale by stretching the truth?
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
This is a classic case of form over substance, and the IRS is pretty good at seeing through these arrangements. The key issue is whether the shareholders are still considered 2% shareholders of an S-Corp, which they absolutely are regardless of the PEO arrangement. The PEO doesn't change the underlying ownership structure of the business. Treasury Regulation 1.1372-1(b) defines a 2% shareholder as someone who owns more than 2% of the outstanding stock or more than 2% of the total combined voting power. This status doesn't magically disappear because a PEO is handling payroll and benefits. Notice 2008-1 specifically addresses health insurance premiums for S-Corp shareholders and requires them to be included in the shareholder-employee's wages. There's nothing in the code or regulations suggesting a PEO creates an exception to these rules.
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Sean Fitzgerald
•Does this apply even if the insurance is technically offered through the PEO's plan rather than directly through the S-Corp? I thought there might be some wiggle room since the PEO becomes the "employer of record" for some purposes.
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
•Yes, it absolutely still applies. The "employer of record" status of a PEO is primarily for administrative purposes like payroll processing and benefits administration. It doesn't change the underlying reality that these individuals are 2% shareholders of an S-Corp. The IRS looks at the economic reality of the situation, not just the formal structure. The shareholders still own and control the company, regardless of who processes their paycheck. It's a substance-over-form doctrine that the IRS applies regularly in these situations.
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Zara Khan
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Aisha Mohammed
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Ethan Campbell
I work with several S-Corps that use PEOs and this exact situation comes up frequently. The PEO salespeople often don't understand (or deliberately misrepresent) how the tax rules work for 2% shareholders. The bottom line: Using a PEO doesn't change the underlying S-Corp rules. If someone owns >2% of an S-Corp, their health insurance is still reported as income on their W-2 (box 1), regardless of whether it comes through the S-Corp directly or through a PEO arrangement. The only potential advantage is that the PEO might offer better insurance rates through their group buying power, but the tax treatment remains exactly the same.
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Yuki Watanabe
•What if the PEO technically "employs" the individuals and then "leases" them back to the S-Corp? Could that create separation between the employment relationship and the ownership?
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Ethan Campbell
•That's a common misconception but it doesn't change anything for tax purposes. The "employee leasing" aspect of PEOs doesn't override the S-Corp attribution rules for 2% shareholders. IRC Section 1372 treats 2% S-Corp shareholders as partners for fringe benefit purposes, and this classification is based on their ownership status, not their technical employment arrangement. The "leasing" structure doesn't create enough separation to change the tax treatment. I've seen clients get into trouble trying to use this exact approach.
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Carmen Sanchez
Has anyone actually received official IRS guidance on this specific issue? My CPA is giving me conflicting information about our similar situation.
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
•While there's no guidance that specifically mentions PEOs in relation to S-Corp health insurance, the principles are clearly established in existing guidance. Notice 2008-1 lays out the rules for S-Corp shareholder health insurance, and Revenue Ruling 71-588 establishes that you can't circumvent shareholder treatment through indirect arrangements. I've had cases audited where clients tried similar workarounds, and the IRS consistently applies the 2% shareholder rules regardless of the specific arrangement used to provide the insurance.
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Oscar O'Neil
I've seen this exact scenario play out multiple times with clients, and unfortunately the PEO is misleading you. The fundamental issue is that the IRS doesn't care about the administrative structure - they care about economic reality. Your clients remain 2% shareholders of the S-Corp regardless of whether their paychecks come through a PEO. The health insurance premiums will still need to be included in box 1 of their W-2s per IRC Section 1372(a) and Notice 2008-1. The PEO arrangement doesn't create any legitimate tax advantage here. I'd recommend having a frank conversation with the PEO about their claims. Many PEO sales reps either don't understand the nuances of S-Corp taxation or they're deliberately stretching the truth to close deals. Your instincts are absolutely correct - if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. The only real benefits of a PEO in this situation would be potential cost savings on insurance premiums through group purchasing power and reduced administrative burden, not tax advantages.
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LordCommander
•This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm relatively new to working with S-Corps and when the PEO rep was so confident about this "loophole," I started second-guessing my understanding of the basic rules. Your point about economic reality vs administrative structure really clarifies things for me. I'll definitely have that frank conversation with the PEO about their claims - it sounds like they're either misinformed or being deliberately misleading. Thanks for confirming that my gut instinct was right about this being too good to be true!
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Fatima Al-Rashid
I've been dealing with S-Corp taxation for over a decade and this PEO "workaround" comes up regularly. The answer is definitively no - there's no legitimate tax advantage here. The core issue is that IRC Section 1372 treats 2% S-Corp shareholders as if they were partners for purposes of fringe benefits, including health insurance. This treatment is based on their ownership percentage in the corporation, not on who technically provides the insurance or processes payroll. When a PEO provides health insurance to these shareholders, the premiums must still be included in their W-2 wages (Box 1) because they're considered self-employed individuals for health insurance purposes. The fact that the insurance comes through a PEO's group plan rather than directly from the S-Corp is irrelevant from a tax perspective. I've seen multiple audits where taxpayers tried similar arrangements, and the IRS consistently disallows these strategies. They apply the substance-over-form doctrine - what matters is the underlying economic relationship (shareholder-employee of S-Corp), not the administrative mechanics of how benefits are delivered. The PEO may genuinely believe their interpretation is correct, but they're likely confusing employment law concepts with tax law. While PEOs can be "employers of record" for certain labor law purposes, this doesn't override federal tax classifications for S-Corp shareholders. Bottom line: stick with the established rules and avoid potential penalties from an aggressive tax position that lacks solid legal foundation.
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Paolo Longo
•Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation! As someone new to this community and S-Corp taxation, this really helps clarify the difference between employment law and tax law concepts. I've been researching similar issues for a client and kept getting confused by conflicting information online. Your point about the substance-over-form doctrine is particularly helpful - it makes sense that the IRS would look at the actual ownership relationship rather than administrative arrangements. Do you happen to have any specific case citations or IRS rulings that address attempts to circumvent the 2% shareholder rules through third-party arrangements? I'd love to have some concrete examples to reference when explaining this to clients.
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