Non-US Resident Faces $2.72 Million IRS Fine - Supreme Court's Upcoming 8th Amendment Ruling
So has anyone been keeping up with this crazy case Bittner v United States? It's kinda flying under the radar but could be HUGE for Americans living abroad like me. The Supreme Court is gonna decide next year if a $2.72 million fine against this guy violates the 8th amendment's ban on excessive fines. I've been living in Singapore for about 5 years now, and all the FBAR filing requirements are honestly a nightmare. For those who don't know, if you have foreign accounts over $10k total, you have to report them all to the Treasury Department. This dude apparently had multiple accounts but didn't file the right forms for years (not knowing he had to), and now the IRS wants nearly $3 million from him, even though he didn't actually owe any tax! Apparently there are like 9 million Americans living outside the US who could be affected by this ruling. Anyone else following this? Could change everything for expats dealing with US tax obligations!
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Isaiah Thompson
This case is definitely significant, especially for Americans with foreign financial accounts. The key issue is whether the $10,000 FBAR penalty applies per form or per account. Here's what's important to understand: The Bank Secrecy Act requires US persons to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) if they have foreign financial accounts totaling over $10,000 at any time during the year. The penalties for non-willful violations can be severe - up to $10,000 per violation. But the question is what constitutes a "violation" - is it failing to file the form (one violation) or failing to report each account (multiple violations)? In Bittner's case, he had 51 accounts over 5 years that he didn't report, resulting in the massive $2.72 million penalty ($10,000 × 272 violations). If the Court rules that the penalty applies per form rather than per account, it would significantly reduce the financial burden on Americans who make honest mistakes.
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Ruby Garcia
•Thanks for the explanation. I'm confused though - did Bittner actually evade paying taxes or was this purely a paperwork violation? And does your citizenship status matter for these FBAR requirements? Like if I have dual citizenship with another country but have accounts there, do I still need to file these forms?
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Isaiah Thompson
•This was purely a reporting violation - Bittner didn't evade any taxes. The FBAR requirement is separate from tax obligations and is about financial transparency, not tax collection. For your situation with dual citizenship, yes, you absolutely still need to file FBAR forms. US tax obligations are based on citizenship, not residency. If you're a US citizen or permanent resident, you must report worldwide income and file FBARs for foreign accounts exceeding $10,000 in aggregate value at any point during the year, regardless of your other citizenship status.
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Evelyn Martinez
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Benjamin Carter
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Alexander Evans
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Maya Lewis
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Isaac Wright
•Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone lines are always jammed... does this service somehow jump the queue or what? I've been trying to reach someone for weeks about my own foreign accounts.
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Lucy Taylor
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Maya Lewis
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Lucy Taylor
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Connor Murphy
Everyone keeps talking about the 8th Amendment angle, but there's another interesting question in the Bittner case about what "reasonable cause" means for these penalties. The IRS has been super strict about what excuses they'll accept. I'm a tax preparer with several expat clients, and I've seen the IRS reject reasonable cause arguments from people who genuinely didn't know about FBAR requirements or received incorrect advice from professionals. The current standard is almost impossible to meet. If the Court addresses this aspect too, it could make a huge difference in how these penalties are applied. Right now, it feels like the IRS uses a "guilty until proven innocent" approach with FBAR violations.
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KhalilStar
•Do you think that living abroad for many years would count as "reasonable cause"? I've been in Thailand since 2010 and literally just learned about FBAR requirements last month from a random Facebook group. Never had a US accountant and my Thai accountant obviously doesn't know US tax laws.
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Connor Murphy
•Just living abroad wouldn't automatically qualify as reasonable cause, but your specific circumstances might. The IRS considers factors like your background, education, past filing compliance, and whether you made a good faith effort to comply once you learned of the requirement. In your case, the fact that you didn't have access to US tax expertise and took action immediately after learning about the requirement could strengthen your reasonable cause argument. I'd recommend documenting exactly when and how you learned about FBAR, and any steps you've taken since then to come into compliance. The Streamlined Filing Procedures mentioned earlier might be your best option.
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Amelia Dietrich
Does anyone know what the timeline is for the Supreme Court decision? I have a client with a similar situation (multiple unreported accounts), and we're wondering if we should delay addressing the issue until after the ruling.
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Kaiya Rivera
•I read that oral arguments happened in November 2022, so the decision should come sometime before June 2025. But waiting could be risky - if your client gets audited while waiting, they'd lose the ability to use voluntary disclosure programs.
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Samantha Johnson
This is such an important case that more people need to know about! I've been an expat in Australia for 8 years and only discovered FBAR requirements 2 years ago when my US-based CPA mentioned them almost in passing. The fact that a simple reporting oversight can result in millions in penalties is absolutely terrifying. What really gets me is how the IRS doesn't do much to educate Americans living abroad about these requirements. There's no automatic notification when you move overseas, no clear guidance sent to embassies or consulates, and most local tax preparers in other countries have never heard of FBAR. Yet they expect perfect compliance with penalties that can literally bankrupt someone. I really hope the Supreme Court rules in favor of limiting these penalties. The current system feels designed to trap honest people who are already dealing with the complexity of dual tax obligations. Even if you owe zero US tax (thanks to foreign tax credits), you can still face financial ruin over paperwork violations.
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