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Zoe Walker

Never got my $2K IRS refund from 2020 - can I deduct it from my 2023 taxes instead?

I'm feeling really frustrated right now. Back in October 2021, I got a letter from the IRS saying I had an adjusted refund of around $2,700 for my 2020 taxes (which I filed late, totally my bad). The problem is, that check never showed up in my mailbox. I've tried calling the IRS multiple times but it's impossible to get through to an actual human being. Since I'm planning to file my 2023 tax return soon (before the October 15 extension deadline), I'm wondering if there's any way I can just deduct that $2,700 from what I owe this year? It seems like it would save everyone a lot of hassle - they already confirmed I'm owed the money, so why not just apply it to what I owe now? If this is possible, does anyone know what form I need to use? Or is there a specific section on the regular tax forms where I can claim this? Really appreciate any help!

Elijah Brown

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The short answer is no, you can't just deduct a prior year's refund from your current year's tax liability. These are separate tax years and the IRS handles them independently. What you need to do is track down that missing refund. The IRS has a specific process for this. First, check the status of your refund using the "Where's My Refund" tool on the IRS website. If it shows the refund was issued but you never received it, you'll need to request a payment trace. To do this, you'll need to complete Form 3911 (Taxpayer Statement Regarding Refund). This form allows the IRS to trace the refund check and determine if it was cashed. If the check wasn't cashed, they can issue a replacement. If it was cashed by someone else, there's a different process they'll initiate. Since it's been over a year since the original refund was issued, this is definitely something you should address directly rather than trying to handle it through your current year's return.

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How long does the payment trace typically take? I've been waiting on a refund for months now and I'm getting worried.

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Elijah Brown

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A payment trace typically takes about 6 weeks to process. The IRS will research what happened to your payment and determine next steps. Keep in mind that current processing times may be longer due to IRS backlog issues. If your situation is causing financial hardship, you might want to contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service, which is an independent organization within the IRS that can help taxpayers resolve problems.

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Natalie Chen

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Nick Kravitz

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Hannah White

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Michael Green

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Mateo Silva

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Let me add something important here - when the IRS confirms you have a refund but you haven't received it, there's also a time limit to claim it! You generally have 3 years from the original due date of the return to claim a refund. For a 2020 tax refund, that would mean you have until April 15, 2024 to resolve this. After that, you're generally out of luck and the money goes back to the Treasury. So don't wait too long thinking you'll be able to resolve this whenever - there's actually a deadline!

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Zoe Walker

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Thanks for pointing this out! I had no idea there was a time limit. Does the clock start from when they sent the letter confirming my refund, or from the original tax filing deadline?

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Mateo Silva

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The clock starts from the original tax filing deadline for that year, not from when they sent you the letter. For 2020 taxes, the original filing deadline was May 17, 2021 (it was extended from the usual April 15 due to COVID). So you'd have until May 17, 2024 to claim your refund. After that deadline passes, unclaimed refunds become the property of the U.S. Treasury and you can no longer get your money back. That's why it's important to address this sooner rather than later.

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One thing nobody has mentioned - check if your refund was applied to any past due tax debts! This happened to me. I was expecting a refund check but never got it. After FINALLY reaching someone at the IRS, I found out they had applied my refund to an outstanding tax debt from a previous year. They should have sent you a notice if this happened, but sometimes these notices get lost in the mail too. Just something to consider before going through the whole trace process.

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Cameron Black

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Exactly what happened to me too! I was waiting for a $1,500 refund that never came, then found out they used it to pay off an old student loan debt I had defaulted on years ago. They can offset your refund for federal debts, child support, state income tax, etc.

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