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Yara Elias

IRS claims I never made estimated tax payment, demands payment with penalties, and can't be reached

So frustrated right now! I made an estimated tax payment (about $1,850) for my 2022 taxes back on April 18, 2023 (the deadline day) because I thought I wouldn't get all my documents in time to file. Then literally like an hour after making the payment online, my last missing form showed up in my email. Talk about timing! I went ahead and finished my taxes that same day, and included the estimated payment I had just made on Schedule 3, line 9. After calculating everything, I had actually overpaid by around $270, so I was expecting a nice little refund. Fast forward to last week - I get this notice dated July 12 saying the IRS has "no record" of my estimated payment and I now owe them $1,590 plus penalties and interest! The notice says to call if I disagree, but here's the kicker - every single phone option I try ends with "due to high call volume, we cannot take your call at this time" and then it hangs up! I have the confirmation number from when I made the payment and even a bank statement showing the money left my account. What am I supposed to do if they won't even let me talk to someone? Has anyone dealt with this nightmare before?

QuantumQuasar

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This happens more often than you'd think. The IRS systems don't always properly match payments to returns, especially when they're made very close to when you file. Here's what you should do: 1) First, don't panic about the penalties yet. If you can prove you made the payment, they'll remove all penalties and interest. 2) Send a response letter by certified mail (important!) to the address on your notice. Include copies (not originals) of your payment confirmation and bank statement showing the withdrawal. Reference the notice number at the top of your letter. 3) If you made the payment electronically, print out the confirmation page. If it was by check, include a copy of the canceled check. 4) While waiting for a response, you might try calling early morning (right when they open) or late afternoon on Wednesday or Thursday - typically lower volume times. 5) You could also try contacting the Taxpayer Advocate Service if this continues unresolved. They can often help when normal channels fail.

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Yara Elias

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Thanks for the advice! Do you know roughly how long it might take to get a response if I send in the documentation by certified mail? And is it worth also faxing the same information to the IRS number on the notice?

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QuantumQuasar

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Expect 30-45 days for a response to your certified mail - though it could be longer with current backlogs. It's definitely worth faxing the same documentation as a backup, just be sure to include your notice number, SSN, tax year, and a cover sheet explaining the situation. The more communication channels you use, the better your chances of quick resolution. Also, take screenshots of any failed call attempts if possible - this can help document your good faith efforts if you need to request penalty abatement later.

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Amina Diop

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How long did it take for the IRS to fix your issue after you sent the letter they helped you create? I'm in a similar situation but with an estimated payment that was applied to my spouse's account instead of our joint return.

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How exactly does this service work? Do they just call the IRS for you or is there more to it? I've been trying to reach someone for 3 weeks about a similar issue.

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Oliver Weber

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NebulaNinja

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I need to eat my words about Claimyr from my skeptical comment above. After nothing else worked, I tried it yesterday out of desperation for my estimated payment issue. Got a call back in about 2 hours and spoke with an actual IRS representative who could see my account details. Turns out my estimated payment had been received but was sitting in an "unallocated funds" account because I had transposed two digits in my SSN when making the payment! The agent was able to trace it and immediately apply it to my correct account while I waited. The notice was automatically canceled, and she said I would receive confirmation in 2-3 weeks. She also put notes in my file so if any further notices come, I can reference this call. After weeks of stress and failed calls, it was solved in one 15-minute conversation. Definitely worth it for time-sensitive issues like payments not being credited.

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Javier Gomez

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If you have your bank statement showing the payment cleared, another option is visiting your local Taxpayer Assistance Center in person. You need to make an appointment first by calling 844-545-5640. They often can pull up your records on the spot and see what happened to your payment. When I had a similar issue, the in-person IRS assistant saw that my estimated payment had been correctly received but was applied to the wrong tax year (they applied it to 2021 instead of 2022). She fixed it right there in the system while I waited!

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Emma Wilson

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Are appointments at TACs still backed up for months? Last time I tried to make an appointment it was a 3-month wait in my area.

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Javier Gomez

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It varies by location. My area (mid-sized city in the Midwest) had about a 3-week wait in June. However, they keep some slots open for urgent issues like notices with impending deadlines. When you call, specifically mention you have an IRS notice with a deadline and they may be able to fit you in sooner. They also now have "virtual appointments" in some locations where you can video chat with a representative, which sometimes have shorter wait times than in-person meetings. Worth asking about when you call the appointment line!

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Malik Thomas

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Did you check your IRS online account to see if the payment shows up there? Sometimes the payment posts correctly to your account but doesn't get matched to the return properly. Go to irs.gov and create/login to your online account - you can see all payments received there.

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This is great advice. I had the same issue last year and when I checked my online account, I could see the payment was actually there - it just hadn't been applied to my balance due. Took a screenshot and included it with my response to the IRS, and they fixed it without further hassle.

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