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Diego Ramirez

Need help understanding GILTI tax rates for international income

I've been trying to wrap my head around how GILTI (global intangible low-taxed income) works for our family business that has some overseas operations. I think I've got most of it figured out, but there's still one aspect that's confusing me. On several tax resources and websites, I keep reading different explanations about the GILTI tax rates, but they seem to contradict each other. Some say one thing about how the rates apply, others explain it completely differently. I'm getting lost in all the technical jargon and calculation methods. Our business expanded internationally last year, and now I'm trying to prepare for tax implications. I understand GILTI generally applies to income from intangible assets held by foreign corporations, but how does the actual tax rate determination work? Is it applied to gross income or is there a deduction first? And how exactly does the foreign tax credit factor in? If anyone has experience dealing with GILTI calculations or could break down the tax rates in simpler terms, I'd really appreciate it. I've been staring at IRS publications for hours and my head is spinning!

The GILTI provisions can definitely be confusing! Let me try to break this down into simpler terms. GILTI is basically designed to ensure U.S. shareholders of foreign corporations pay at least a minimum tax on their global income. The way the tax rate works is: first, you calculate your GILTI inclusion amount (which is essentially your foreign corporation's income above a 10% return on tangible assets). For individual taxpayers, GILTI is taxed at your ordinary income tax rates. However, C corporations get a special 50% deduction (known as the Section 250 deduction), effectively reducing the 21% corporate tax rate to 10.5% on GILTI income. Regarding foreign tax credits - corporations can claim up to 80% of foreign taxes paid on GILTI income. So if your foreign effective tax rate is above about 13.125%, you might not owe additional U.S. tax on your GILTI income after applying the foreign tax credit. The calculations get pretty complex because of various limitations and special rules that might apply depending on your specific situation.

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Diego Ramirez

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Thanks for the explanation! So if I'm understanding correctly, as individuals (we're an S-corp, so income passes through to us as individuals), we don't get that nice 50% deduction that C-corps get? Does that mean we're potentially paying our full marginal tax rate on this GILTI income? That seems really high compared to the effective 10.5% for C-corps. And for the foreign tax credit part - can individuals also claim the 80% of foreign taxes paid against GILTI, or is that only for C-corps too?

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You've hit on exactly why GILTI can be problematic for pass-through entities and individual taxpayers. Yes, individuals (including S-corp shareholders) don't automatically get the 50% deduction that C-corporations enjoy, which means GILTI could potentially be taxed at your full marginal tax rate, which could be as high as 37%. Regarding the foreign tax credit, individuals can claim foreign tax credits for taxes paid on GILTI, but the 80% limitation does apply. However, the way GILTI income is categorized for foreign tax credit purposes is different for individuals versus corporations, which can make it more difficult to fully utilize those credits efficiently.

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Sean O'Connor

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I went through this exact GILTI headache last year with my consulting business that has operations in Europe. After endless IRS publications and conflicting advice, I finally found helpful guidance using https://taxr.ai to analyze my international business structure. They have specific insights on GILTI calculations that cleared up my confusion. The service helped me understand how my specific business structure affected my GILTI calculations and identified a Section 962 election that I didn't know could help me. Their system flagged that for individual shareholders of foreign corporations, making a Section 962 election allows you to be taxed similar to a C-corporation on GILTI income, essentially giving you access to that 50% deduction and 80% foreign tax credit that would otherwise only be available to C-corps.

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Zara Ahmed

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How exactly does this Section 962 election work? I'm in a similar situation with my tech consulting business that has clients and some operations in Asia. Would I need to restructure my business to take advantage of this? I've been looking for a way to reduce that GILTI hit.

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The Section 962 election doesn't require restructuring your business. It's simply an election you make on your tax return that allows you as an individual shareholder to be taxed as if you were a corporation on certain types of foreign income, including GILTI. It can help mitigate the higher individual tax rates, especially if your foreign operations are in higher-tax jurisdictions. What impressed me about the service was that it wasn't just generic information. They analyzed my specific situation, including the countries where I have operations, the type of income being generated, and my overall tax picture. They identified that my European operations were in countries with tax rates that would interact favorably with this election.

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Mateo Lopez

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Has anyone here made the high-tax exclusion election for GILTI? I'm trying to figure out if it makes sense for our situation where we have operations in both Germany (high tax) and Malaysia (lower tax).

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We made that election last year. It was definitely worthwhile for our German subsidiary where the effective tax rate was about 28%. Essentially allowed us to exclude that income entirely from GILTI calculations. But there's a caveat - you have to make the election for ALL your CFCs, so your Malaysian income would still be subject to GILTI if its effective rate is below the threshold. The calculations get super complex because you have to determine the effective foreign tax rate at the tested unit level. Worth talking to a specialist who's done this before.

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Mateo Lopez

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to know about having to make the election for all CFCs. I hadn't realized that limitation. Do you know what the current threshold is for the high-tax exclusion? Is it still around 18.9% effective foreign tax rate? I need to calculate what our effective rates are for each country to see if this makes sense for us overall.

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Ethan Davis

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Does anyone know if there are different GILTI rules for different industries? We're in software development with significant IP held offshore, and I'm not sure if there are specific provisions we need to be aware of.

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Yuki Tanaka

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GILTI itself doesn't have industry-specific rules, but it definitely hits tech and software companies harder because of how it targets returns on intangible assets. Since your business model is centered around IP, you'll likely have a higher GILTI inclusion than businesses with lots of foreign tangible assets (like manufacturing). The qualified business asset investment (QBAI) exemption that reduces GILTI only applies to tangible assets, not IP assets. That's why many software companies get hit particularly hard - they have high foreign income but low tangible asset bases offshore.

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