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Joshua Hellan

Understanding GILTI Tax: How Does Section 951a Prevent Profit Shifting?

I've been diving into this whole Global Intangible Low-Taxed Income (GILTI) thing under Section 951a for the past week, and I get the basic concept, but there's one part I'm still scratching my head about. I understand GILTI is supposed to discourage US multinational companies from moving profits offshore, but I'm having trouble understanding exactly how it prevents companies from using intellectual property to shift profits out of the United States. I've read a bunch of articles and tax blogs explaining the calculation and how it's part of the 2017 tax reforms, but the mechanics of how it actually discourages IP profit shifting isn't clicking for me. Could someone explain this with maybe a simple example? Like how did companies use IP to shift profits before GILTI, and how does GILTI now prevent that specific strategy? I'd really appreciate if someone could break this down in plain English. I'm trying to understand this for a business project I'm working on. Thanks in advance for any help!

Jibriel Kohn

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The GILTI provision basically targets situations where US companies were parking their intellectual property (patents, trademarks, etc.) in low-tax countries to avoid US taxation. Let me give you a simplified example: Before GILTI: Company X would develop valuable IP in the US but then transfer ownership to a subsidiary in a tax haven that charged little or no corporate tax. The US parent would then pay high royalties to the offshore subsidiary for using this IP. These royalty payments were tax-deductible expenses for the US company, reducing their US taxable income, while the income received by the offshore subsidiary faced minimal taxation. With GILTI: Now Section 951a forces US shareholders of foreign corporations to include their share of GILTI in their gross income each year, regardless of whether that money is actually distributed to them. GILTI essentially calculates what the IRS considers "excess returns" (profits that exceed a 10% return on tangible assets) and taxes that at a special rate. So even if Company X tries the old strategy of putting IP in a tax haven, the US parent company will still have to pay tax on the "excess" profits earned by that offshore subsidiary. This significantly reduces the tax benefit of shifting profits through IP licensing arrangements.

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Joshua Hellan

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Thanks for that explanation! So if I understand correctly, before GILTI, companies could shift profits by: 1. Creating IP in the US 2. Transferring ownership to a subsidiary in a tax haven 3. Having the US company pay royalties to the subsidiary 4. Deducting those royalties as expenses in the US while keeping the income in low-tax jurisdictions And GILTI counters this by saying "even if you don't bring those profits back to the US, we're going to tax them anyway"? Is there a specific reason why they target returns above 10% on tangible assets specifically?

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Jibriel Kohn

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You've got it exactly right - GILTI is designed to tax that offshore income whether or not it's repatriated to the US. The 10% return on tangible assets (called QBAI - Qualified Business Asset Investment) is important because it's meant to target IP-related income specifically. Intellectual property is intangible, so companies with legitimate offshore manufacturing operations (with lots of tangible assets like factories, equipment) won't face as much GILTI tax. But companies that just park IP offshore without substantial physical operations will have very little QBAI, meaning most of their income gets hit with GILTI. It's basically the government's way of saying "if you have real business operations offshore with actual stuff, we'll be more lenient, but if you're just shifting paper profits through IP licensing, we're going to tax that.

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James Johnson

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James Johnson

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Mia Green

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Emma Bianchi

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Emma Bianchi

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Another aspect of GILTI worth mentioning is how it interacts with foreign tax credits. This can significantly affect the effective tax rate you end up paying on GILTI income. For corporations, there's a foreign tax credit limitation where only 80% of foreign taxes paid on GILTI income can offset US tax liability. Plus, these credits are in a separate basket from other foreign source income, which prevents cross-crediting. Individuals who own CFCs directly (rather than through a US corporation) face even harsher treatment since they don't automatically get the 50% GILTI deduction that corporations get under Section 250. This is why many tax advisors recommend using a domestic C corporation as a blocker entity if you have substantial CFC ownership.

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Joshua Hellan

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This is super helpful too. So if I'm understanding right, the GILTI tax treatment is actually more favorable if you're operating through a US corporation rather than having individuals directly owning foreign corporations? Would you need to create a new US parent company to get these benefits if you already have direct ownership of foreign entities?

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That's correct. Individuals owning CFCs directly can face a much higher effective tax rate on GILTI because they don't automatically get the Section 250 deduction that corporations receive. You can potentially restructure existing arrangements by contributing your foreign corporation shares to a new or existing US corporation. However, this needs to be done carefully to avoid triggering other tax consequences. The transfer would typically need to qualify under Section 351 as a tax-free contribution to a corporation. You'd also want to consider ongoing implications like potential double taxation on dividends when the US corporation eventually distributes profits to you as an individual.

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Lol this GILTI stuff is making my head spin! I think I kinda get it now - basically it's to stop companies from using fake royalty payments to move profits to tax havens right? But I'm still not clear on HOW MUCH tax you actually pay on this GILTI income? Is it the full corporate rate or something less?

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Jibriel Kohn

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For US corporations, the effective tax rate on GILTI is typically around 10.5% to 13.125% (after the Section 250 deduction), which is about half the regular corporate tax rate. This increases to 16.4% after 2025 when the GILTI deduction percentage changes. But remember, you can still claim foreign tax credits for up to 80% of the foreign taxes paid on that income. So if your foreign subsidiaries are already paying tax at rates close to these percentages, your additional US tax might be minimal.

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