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Sophia Clark

Navigating Tax Obligations as an Accidental American with UK and Estonian Ties (Dual Citizen)

I need to apologize upfront because I know this type of situation has been discussed before, but my specific circumstances are a bit unique so I'm not sure if previous advice applies to me. I'm a 25-year-old guy who was born in California to Estonian parents. We moved back to Estonia when I was barely a year old, and I've only visited the US twice since then (once at 13 and again at 16) just as a tourist. I have zero family or connections to America. I do know my SSN but my US passport has expired. I've never dealt with the US tax system at all. I've always known I had dual citizenship but honestly just ignored it thinking it wouldn't matter. Recently my Estonian bank reached out about completing a FATCA form, which sent me spiraling into researching US tax code, but everything I find seems to only cover the most basic situations. For the last 5 years, I've been living in the UK. I'm working on a PhD in the UK while simultaneously completing another PhD remotely through an Estonian university. I have several UK bank accounts with under $10k USD total. I also maintain an Estonian account with about $10k in savings and roughly $50k in investments through my bank. Most investments are in S&P500 index funds, with some in a tech stock. This is where I'm completely lost. With income from two different countries plus investments in stocks and index funds, I have no idea what needs to be declared and how. I'd really appreciate advice on which forms I need to complete to get my tax situation compliant. My income has never come close to the ~$120k USD foreign earned income exclusion, but I don't know if stocks are taxed differently or require special reporting. Are there any other accidental Americans in similar situations who could offer guidance? I'm particularly concerned about FBAR requirements and investment reporting.

Your situation is definitely complex but manageable! As an accidental American, you do have US tax filing obligations regardless of where you live. The good news is that with your income levels, you likely won't owe US taxes thanks to the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion and foreign tax credits. First, you need to get caught up with filing requirements. You'll need to file Form 1040 (US tax return) for at least the last 3 years, along with Form 2555 (Foreign Earned Income Exclusion) for your UK and Estonian income. Since you have foreign financial accounts totaling over $10,000, you'll need to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) for at least the last 6 years to report all your foreign accounts. For your investments, you'll need to report income from them (dividends, capital gains) on your US tax return. If your Estonian investments include non-US mutual funds, these might be considered PFICs (Passive Foreign Investment Companies) which have complex reporting requirements using Form 8621. Look into the Streamlined Foreign Offshore Procedures - this IRS program helps people in your exact situation come into compliance without penalties if you weren't aware of your filing obligations.

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Madison Allen

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Thanks for this info! I'm curious - does it matter that the S&P500 investments are through an Estonian bank rather than a US brokerage? Also, how exactly does one determine if something is a PFIC? The bank just calls them index funds but they're obviously not US-based funds.

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Yes, it definitely matters that you're holding S&P500 investments through an Estonian bank. The S&P500 index itself isn't the issue - it's the investment vehicle that matters. If you're investing through a non-US mutual fund or ETF that tracks the S&P500, that would likely be considered a PFIC, triggering Form 8621 requirements. A PFIC is generally any foreign corporation where either 75% or more of the income is passive (investment income) or 50% or more of assets produce passive income. Most foreign mutual funds and ETFs fall into this category. You'll need to check with your Estonian bank to determine the exact structure of your investments. If they're directly holding US stocks or ETFs listed on US exchanges, the reporting is simpler. If they're Estonian financial products that merely track US markets, that's when PFIC rules typically apply.

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Don't forget about state taxes too! Depending on your last state of residence in the US (California in your case), you might still have state filing requirements. California is particularly aggressive about claiming residents, even those living abroad. Since you left as an infant, you probably have a strong case for not being a CA resident, but you might need to formally break residency to be safe.

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Sophia Clark

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I hadn't even thought about state taxes! Do I need to file something specific with California to establish that I'm not a resident there? I literally haven't lived there since I was 11 months old.

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Since you left as an infant, you should be fine without formally breaking residency - you never established it as an adult. California typically looks at factors like where you have a driver's license, voter registration, bank accounts, etc. Since you have none of these connections to California, you have a very strong case for non-residency. However, to be absolutely safe, you could include a brief statement with your federal returns explaining that you left California as an infant and have no connections to the state. In rare cases, people file Form 540NR (California Nonresident Return) with zero income to formally establish non-residency, but this is usually unnecessary for someone in your situation who never established California ties as an adult.

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Zara Perez

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Has anyone in a similar situation considered renouncing US citizenship? I'm a dual UK/US citizen who's never lived in the States and the annual filing requirements are just so burdensome. Wondering if it's worth it for OP to just cut ties completely rather than dealing with this compliance nightmare forever.

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Daniel Rogers

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Renouncing is definitely an option but costs $2,350 in government fees alone, plus you need to be tax compliant for 5 years before renouncing! And if your net worth is over $2 million or your average annual tax liability exceeds $168,000 over the last 5 years, you could face an exit tax. Definitely not a quick or cheap solution.

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