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L2 Visa & Remote Work from US: What Are the Tax Implications for Foreign Income?

I'm in a bit of a complicated situation and could really use some tax advice. My wife recently got an L1 visa and has already moved to the US for her job. I'm currently still in the UK but have an L2 visa approved and plan to join her in about 2 months. The thing is, I really like my current job with a UK tech company, and they've agreed to let me work remotely from the US. I'm trying to figure out the tax mess this might create. From what I understand, if I stay in the US for more than 180 days, I'll meet the "substantial presence test" and have to deal with US taxes. What I'm confused about is: - Once I hit that 180-day mark in the US, how exactly will my UK income be taxed by the US government? - Do I have to pay taxes in both countries? That seems like I'd be getting doubly taxed on everything. - Does it matter that my employer is still a UK company and I'm getting paid in pounds to my UK bank account? I've heard there's some tax treaty between the US and UK, but I'm completely lost on how this works. Any advice would be super appreciated!

You're right to be thinking about this now rather than after you move! The tax situation for someone on an L2 visa working remotely for a foreign company can get complicated. Yes, once you meet the substantial presence test (generally after 183 days in the US during a calendar year), you'll be considered a US tax resident. This means the US will want to tax your worldwide income - including what you earn from your UK employer. The good news is the US and UK have a tax treaty to help prevent double taxation. You'll likely need to file tax returns in both countries, but you can use foreign tax credits to offset taxes paid in one country against taxes owed in the other. This doesn't eliminate filing requirements but helps ensure you're not paying double tax on the same income. Something important to consider: Your UK employer may need to set up a US payroll or use a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) for you, as they might have US tax withholding obligations once you're working from US soil - even if they're paying you in GBP to a UK account.

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Does the company actually have to set up a US payroll though? I've heard of people just continuing to get paid as normal and then filing their US taxes independently. Is that not legal?

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Thanks for the detailed response! I'm worried about the administrative hassle this might create for my employer. They don't have any US entity, just their UK operation. Would they really need to set up a US payroll for just one employee (me)? And regarding the foreign tax credits - does that mean I'd still pay the higher of the two tax rates between UK and US?

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That approach falls into a gray area. Technically, a foreign employer with an employee working in the US may have US tax obligations. While some people do handle it as you described, it can create compliance risks for both the employee and employer. The administrative burden for your employer is a legitimate concern. They wouldn't necessarily need to establish a US entity, but they would need some way to properly handle US tax withholding. Many companies use a Global PEO service for this situation - it's specifically designed for companies with just a few international remote workers. Regarding tax rates, you'll essentially end up paying the higher of the two countries' effective tax rates. If US taxes are higher, you'll pay the full US rate (but can use UK taxes paid as a credit). If UK taxes are higher, you'll pay the full UK rate (with US taxes largely offset by credits).

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you look into state taxes too! Federal tax treaties don't necessarily apply to state taxes. When I moved to California on an L2, I got hit with California state tax on my foreign income even though the federal tax was mostly offset by foreign tax credits. Different states handle this differently. Some will honor the federal treatment of foreign income and others won't. Worth checking the specific rules for whichever state you're moving to.

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That's a great point I hadn't considered at all. We're moving to Massachusetts - any idea how they handle foreign income for visa holders? Is there a resource where I can check this?

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Massachusetts is actually one of the better states for this situation, but you'll still need to file. They generally follow the federal treatment of foreign income, so if you qualify for exclusions or credits at the federal level, you'll likely get similar treatment on your MA return. The Massachusetts Department of Revenue website has some info, but it's not very detailed for visa-specific situations. I'd recommend either checking with a tax professional familiar with Massachusetts or calling the MA Department of Revenue directly. Their hotline is usually much easier to get through to than the IRS.

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Don't forget about Social Security and Medicare taxes (FICA)! This is something people often miss in these situations. Even if you're using the Foreign Tax Credit or Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, you might still be subject to US Social Security and Medicare taxes on your UK income if you're physically working in the US. The US-UK totalization agreement might help here, but it depends on how long you'll be in the US. If it's a temporary assignment (generally under 5 years), you might be able to continue paying into the UK system instead of the US system.

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This is such a good point. I'm on an L1 and got hit with a huge tax bill because my company wasn't withholding FICA taxes properly. The totalization agreement paperwork is also really specific - you need a certificate from the UK authorities.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation - about to move to the US on an L2 visa while continuing to work remotely for my Australian employer. One thing I wanted to add that might be useful for others: make sure you understand the timing of when you become a US tax resident. The substantial presence test isn't just about hitting 183 days in a single year - it's actually a weighted calculation that includes days from the current year plus fractions of days from the previous two years. Also, if you're planning to move mid-year like I am, you might qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion for the portion of the year before you moved to the US. This could exclude up to $112,000 of foreign earned income (for 2022) from US taxation for that period. I'd definitely recommend getting professional advice early in the process rather than trying to figure it out after you file. The intersection of visa status, tax treaties, and remote work creates so many variables that it's easy to miss important details or opportunities.

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This is really helpful context about the weighted calculation for the substantial presence test! I had no idea it wasn't just a simple 183-day count for the current year. That makes the timing even more complex to figure out. Your point about the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion for the pre-move period is also something I hadn't considered. Since I'm planning to move in about 2 months, that could potentially save me quite a bit on taxes for the first part of the year when I'm still UK-based. Do you know if there are any specific requirements for claiming that exclusion? Like do I need to prove I had a "tax home" in the UK for that period, or is it sufficient that I was physically present there while working? Also, when you mention getting professional advice early - are you thinking of a CPA who specializes in international tax, or is there a specific type of advisor that's best for visa holder situations like ours?

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For the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, you need to meet either the "bona fide residence test" or the "physical presence test." Since you're moving mid-year, the physical presence test is probably more relevant - you need to be physically present in a foreign country for at least 330 full days during any 12-month period. Your "tax home" also needs to be in that foreign country during the qualifying period. The tricky part with L2 visa situations is that once you establish US tax residency (through the substantial presence test), it can affect your ability to claim the exclusion going forward. But for the period before you move, you should definitely be able to claim it if you meet the requirements. For professional advice, I'd specifically look for an Enrolled Agent (EA) or CPA who specializes in expatriate tax issues and has experience with L visa holders. Regular CPAs often don't understand the nuances of visa-based tax residency. The American Institute of CPAs has a directory where you can filter by international tax specialization. Also consider looking for someone who's dealt with remote work situations specifically - it's becoming more common but still requires specialized knowledge.

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Just wanted to chime in with some practical experience from someone who went through this exact situation. I moved to the US on an L2 visa in 2021 while continuing to work remotely for my UK employer, and there were a few things that caught me off guard that haven't been mentioned yet. First, timing your move strategically can make a huge difference tax-wise. I moved in July, which meant I was a US tax resident for part of the year but could still claim the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion for the first half. This saved me thousands in taxes. Second, don't underestimate the complexity of the UK side. HMRC has their own rules about tax residency, and just because you're living in the US doesn't automatically make you a non-UK resident for tax purposes. You might need to file the RDR1 form to establish your UK non-resident status, especially if you maintain ties like a UK bank account or property. Third, your UK employer will likely need to stop operating UK PAYE once you're no longer UK resident. This means they'll probably pay you gross, and you'll be responsible for handling all tax obligations yourself in both countries. I'd strongly recommend getting advice from someone who understands both UK and US tax systems - ideally someone familiar with the specific treaty provisions that apply to employment income. The situation is manageable, but the devil is really in the details with timing and proper documentation.

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This is incredibly valuable insight, thank you for sharing your real-world experience! The strategic timing aspect is something I hadn't fully considered - moving in July to maximize the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion for the first half of the year is brilliant. Your point about UK tax residency is particularly important. I was naively assuming that once I move to the US and become a US tax resident, the UK side would automatically sort itself out. The fact that HMRC has their own separate tests for tax residency and I might need to actively establish non-resident status with the RDR1 form is definitely something I need to research further. The PAYE situation is also concerning - I hadn't thought about how my employer would handle the transition from UK PAYE to paying me gross. That sounds like it could create a significant administrative burden for both me and my employer, especially in terms of cash flow since I'd need to handle quarterly estimated tax payments to the US rather than having taxes withheld automatically. When you mention getting advice from someone familiar with both tax systems, did you find someone who was actually qualified in both countries, or did you end up working with separate advisors in the UK and US who could coordinate with each other? I'm wondering what the most practical approach is for getting comprehensive advice that covers both sides properly.

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I found someone who was actually qualified to practice in both jurisdictions - they were a US CPA with additional UK tax qualifications. It was more expensive than working with separate advisors, but the coordination was seamless and they caught several issues that could have easily been missed if I'd been working with two different people who weren't communicating effectively. One thing I'd add to your excellent points - don't forget about the potential impact on your UK pension contributions if you have any workplace or personal pensions running. Once you become non-UK resident, you may lose UK tax relief on pension contributions, which can significantly affect the math on whether it's worth continuing to contribute. Also, if you have any UK ISAs, you won't be able to make new contributions once you're non-resident, though existing ISAs will continue to grow tax-free. It's worth maximizing your ISA contributions before you leave if you haven't already done so for this tax year. The quarterly estimated tax payments in the US are definitely a cash flow consideration, especially since UK employers typically don't understand the US system well enough to help you calculate what you should be setting aside. I ended up opening a separate US bank account specifically for tax savings to avoid any nasty surprises at filing time.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful - thank you all for sharing your experiences! I'm actually a tax professional who specializes in L visa situations, and I wanted to add a few technical points that might be useful. One thing I see come up frequently is confusion about the "first year election" under IRC Section 7701(b)(4). If you're arriving mid-year on an L2 visa, you may be able to elect to be treated as a US resident from your arrival date rather than waiting until you meet the substantial presence test. This can sometimes be beneficial for treaty purposes and simplifies your filing status. Also, regarding the UK employer situation - there's an important distinction between being an "employee" vs an "independent contractor" for US tax purposes, regardless of your UK employment status. If your UK employer doesn't establish US payroll compliance, you might inadvertently be treated as self-employed for US purposes, which would subject you to self-employment tax (15.3%) on top of regular income tax. For those mentioning state taxes - it's worth noting that some states (like Texas, Florida, Washington) have no state income tax at all, while others (like California, New York) are particularly aggressive about taxing foreign income. If you have flexibility in where to establish residency, this could save you thousands annually. The tax treaty provisions are complex, but Article 15 of the US-UK treaty generally allows the UK to tax employment income when services are performed there, and the US to tax when performed here - even for the same employer.

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This is exactly the kind of professional insight I was hoping to find! The first year election under IRC Section 7701(b)(4) is something I'd never heard of before - that could potentially simplify things significantly if I can elect US residency from my arrival date rather than having to track the substantial presence test calculation. The employee vs independent contractor distinction you mention is particularly concerning. My UK employer is quite small and definitely doesn't have any US presence or understanding of US payroll requirements. If continuing as their employee could inadvertently classify me as self-employed for US purposes and trigger that 15.3% self-employment tax on top of everything else, that would completely change the financial equation. Would you happen to know what specific factors the IRS uses to determine this classification? Is it primarily about whether the employer handles US tax withholdings, or are there other control/relationship factors they consider? Also, regarding your point about state taxes - we're actually planning to move to Massachusetts. I know you mentioned it's better than states like California, but do you have any specific insights into how MA treats foreign income for L2 visa holders? I'd love to get a professional perspective on this since the state guidance is pretty limited for our specific situation. Thank you for sharing your expertise - it's incredibly valuable to get guidance from someone who actually specializes in L visa tax issues!

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As someone who went through a similar situation, I can add some practical insights to Amina's excellent technical points. Regarding the employee vs independent contractor issue - the IRS looks at several factors including degree of control, financial aspects, and the relationship type. The key red flags that could trigger self-employment treatment are: 1) No US tax withholdings by your employer, 2) You control your own work schedule/methods, 3) You use your own equipment, and 4) You can work for other clients. Even if you're technically an employee in the UK, the lack of US payroll compliance often tips the scales toward contractor treatment. For Massachusetts specifically, they generally conform to federal tax treatment of foreign income, but they don't recognize the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. So if you exclude income federally, you'll likely still owe MA state tax on it. The good news is MA's top rate is only 5%, versus states like California at 13.3%. One practical tip: if your UK employer balks at setting up US compliance, consider negotiating a gross-up in your compensation to cover the additional self-employment taxes. Many employers find this easier than dealing with US payroll requirements. The first year election Amina mentioned can be really valuable - it often allows you to file jointly with your spouse immediately rather than using married filing separately status, which usually results in lower overall taxes.

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This has been an incredibly comprehensive discussion! As someone who's been researching this exact situation for months, I wanted to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - the potential impact on your future US immigration status. If you're planning to eventually apply for a green card (which many L2 holders do through their spouse's L1), your tax compliance history will be scrutinized during the adjustment of status process. USCIS will want to see that you've properly filed and paid all required taxes in both countries. This means it's especially important to get the tax treatment right from day one, rather than trying to correct mistakes later. I've heard of cases where people had delays in their green card applications because of tax compliance issues, even when the actual amounts owed were relatively small. Also, keep detailed records of everything - days spent in each country, tax payments made, correspondence with tax authorities in both countries. The burden of proof will be on you to demonstrate compliance if questions arise later. One more practical tip: consider setting up automatic transfers to a dedicated tax savings account as soon as you start working from the US. Based on the experiences shared here, it sounds like you'll likely owe taxes to both countries initially (before credits are applied), so having cash set aside quarterly will help avoid any cash flow crunches at filing time.

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This is such an important point that I hadn't considered at all! The connection between tax compliance and future green card applications makes getting this right from the beginning even more critical. It's sobering to think that even small tax mistakes could potentially delay or complicate the adjustment of status process later. Your advice about keeping detailed records resonates with me - I can already see how complex the documentation trail will be with days spent in each country, multiple tax filings, foreign tax credits, and potentially different treatment between federal and state levels. Having everything organized from day one will definitely be worth the effort. The automatic tax savings account is brilliant advice. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like the cash flow timing can be tricky since you might owe substantial amounts to both countries initially, even if credits ultimately reduce the final liability. I'm thinking of setting up automatic transfers for maybe 35-40% of gross income to be safe - does that sound reasonable based on the experiences people have shared? One follow-up question: when you mention USCIS scrutinizing tax compliance history, do you know if they focus more on the accuracy of filings or the timeliness of payments? For example, if someone filed correctly but was late on a quarterly estimated payment, would that be viewed as seriously as someone who failed to report income entirely? Thank you for bringing up this immigration angle - it adds another layer of importance to getting all of this sorted out properly from the start!

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This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm actually planning to be in a similar situation next year (L2 visa, continuing remote work for my Canadian employer) and this discussion has highlighted so many complexities I hadn't even considered. A few additional questions based on what I've read here: 1. **Timing of the move**: Several people mentioned strategic timing for tax purposes. Is there an optimal time of year to make the move to maximize benefits like the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion? It sounds like mid-year might be better than January 1st? 2. **Banking considerations**: I noticed mentions of keeping UK bank accounts vs opening US accounts for tax savings. Are there any FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report) implications I should be aware of when maintaining foreign accounts while being a US tax resident? 3. **Professional licensing**: This might be specific to my field (I'm in tech/software), but has anyone dealt with professional licensing or certification transfers when working remotely for a foreign company from the US? I'm wondering if there are any regulatory complications beyond just the tax issues. The immigration compliance angle that @Molly Hansen brought up is particularly eye-opening. It really drives home the importance of getting professional help rather than trying to wing this on my own. For those who've been through this process - roughly how much should I budget for professional tax advice in the first year? I want to make sure I'm prepared for all the costs involved beyond just the taxes themselves. Thanks again to everyone who's shared their experiences - this has been incredibly valuable!

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