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Brooklyn Knight

Is my App Store income considered 'Self-Employed' or 'Hobby income' for taxes?

I'm a full-time software engineer and I'm confused about how to report some side income on my taxes. Looking for advice on whether I should classify it as hobby or self-employment. Several years ago I created an app and put it on the Apple App Store for free. I've been paying the $99 annual developer fee every year just to keep it available. Last year (2024), I decided to switch it to a paid app to see if I could at least cover my developer fee. The results were modest - the app generated about $250 in total sales, but after Apple took their 30% commission, I ended up with roughly $175. Now I need to report this on my tax return and I'm not sure which classification makes more sense. If I file as self-employed: - I could deduct the $99 developer fee and other expenses - The intent was technically to make profit when I switched to paid - Would need to maintain Schedule C and deal with that paperwork - Might have to pay self-employment tax on the earnings If I file as hobby income: - Simpler reporting requirements - I don't depend on this income at all - I'm not actively marketing or trying to grow this "business" - Wouldn't be able to deduct my expenses against the income I'm not planning to put significant effort into making the app more profitable - maybe just adjust pricing occasionally. Even if it operates at a loss, that's fine with me since it's mainly just a creative outlet. What's the right way to classify this income? I've gotten conflicting advice and I don't want to trigger any IRS issues down the road. Any help would be appreciated!

Owen Devar

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Based on what you've described, this sounds more like self-employment income than hobby income. The key factor is your intention to make a profit, which you demonstrated when you converted the app from free to paid specifically to generate income. While it might seem simpler to file as hobby income, the IRS has specific criteria for hobbies vs. businesses, and your situation leans toward business activity. With self-employment reporting, you can deduct legitimate expenses like your developer fee and potentially a portion of costs related to developing/maintaining the app. The fact that you're not depending on this income or actively trying to grow it doesn't automatically make it a hobby. Many people have small side businesses that they don't actively grow. What matters is the profit motive and whether the activity is carried out in a businesslike manner. If you report as self-employment, you'll file Schedule C, which isn't as complicated as it might seem for a small operation like yours. And if you continue this activity over multiple years, reporting it consistently as self-employment will look more appropriate to the IRS than switching classifications.

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Daniel Rivera

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But wouldn't reporting as self-employed create more paperwork and possibly trigger audits if I show losses multiple years in a row? I heard the IRS gets suspicious if you keep claiming business losses.

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Owen Devar

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Multiple years of losses can potentially increase audit risk, but it's completely legitimate to have a small business that doesn't generate much profit, especially in early years. The key is being able to demonstrate that you're engaging in the activity with the intention to make a profit, even if you haven't been successful yet. For a small operation like yours with minimal income and expenses, the paperwork isn't overwhelming - Schedule C is relatively straightforward when you have just a few transactions to report. The self-employment tax might be a small additional cost, but being able to deduct your expenses often makes up for that.

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Kelsey Chin

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I've been a mobile app developer for 8 years and dealt with this exact situation. In your case, I'd 100% file as self-employed on Schedule C. Here's why: 1. You made the app paid specifically to generate income = profit motive 2. Apple developer fees and commissions are legitimate business expenses you can deduct 3. The "hobby vs business" test includes factors like maintaining proper records and operating in a businesslike manner Even with minimal profit, the IRS recognizes legitimate small businesses. The classification doesn't depend on how much time you spend or whether it's your main income source. One tip: keep good documentation of all expenses and development time. If you ever get questioned, showing that you treated this as a business activity from the beginning will help support your classification.

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Norah Quay

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Does this advice still apply if I'm not planning to actively grow the app business? I have a similar situation but I'm basically just letting my app sit there collecting occasional downloads.

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Kelsey Chin

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Yes, this advice still applies even if you're not actively growing the business. The IRS doesn't require you to be constantly expanding or marketing your product. Many small businesses operate on a maintenance model where they've created a product and simply maintain it while collecting revenue. What matters more is that you operate in a businesslike manner - keeping separate records, having a profit motive (even if small), and making occasional business decisions like price adjustments. The level of activity can be minimal and still qualify as a business rather than a hobby.

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Leo McDonald

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Does nobody here realize that if ur income is under $400 from self-employment you dont even have to pay self employment tax?? So all this worry about filing schedule C might be pointless. Also hobby income goes on Schedule 1 line 8 now (used to be "other income" on old forms). But cant deduct expenses so that sucks. Honestly for such a small amount IRS probably wont care either way lol but self employed makes more sense and lets u deduct expenses

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Jessica Nolan

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That's not entirely correct. You still need to report the income even if it's under $400. The $400 threshold is just for when you have to pay self-employment tax, but income tax still applies to all income regardless of amount.

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Shelby Bauman

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Based on my experience with similar situations, I'd strongly recommend filing as self-employment income on Schedule C. The key indicator here is that you deliberately switched from a free app to a paid app with the intention of generating revenue - that's a clear profit motive, which is the primary factor the IRS considers. A few important points to consider: 1. **Expense deductions**: With self-employment classification, you can deduct your $99 developer fee and other legitimate business expenses, which could potentially reduce your taxable income below the $175 you received. 2. **Documentation**: Keep records of all expenses related to the app (developer fees, any equipment costs, software subscriptions, etc.) to support your business classification. 3. **Consistency**: If you plan to continue this activity in future years, it's better to establish the self-employment classification now rather than switching between hobby and business classifications later. The amount of time you spend on the app or whether it's your primary income source doesn't disqualify it from being a business. Many legitimate small businesses operate exactly as you've described - maintaining an existing product with occasional adjustments. Given the modest income level, the additional complexity of Schedule C is minimal and the ability to deduct expenses likely makes it worthwhile.

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Summer Green

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - if someone switches from hobby to business classification in a later year (like if they decide to start actively marketing their app), does that create any issues with the IRS? Or is it okay to change classification as your situation evolves? I'm asking because I have a similar app situation but I'm genuinely not sure if I'll want to put more effort into it in future years. Don't want to lock myself into the wrong classification now if my intentions might change later.

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