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Diego Vargas

International Tax Implications for Offshore Accounts in Cayman Islands/Bahamas

Hey everyone, I've been trying to wrap my head around offshore taxation and would appreciate some guidance. So here's my situation - I'm a Canadian citizen currently living in the US on an L2 visa (dependent of my spouse who has an L1). Not a US citizen or Green Card holder. For context, my annual income is around $330,000 USD. I'm considering the following setup and wondering about the tax implications: 1. Opening a corporate entity/LLC/Trust account in an offshore location like Cayman Islands or Bahamas, working with a broker such as Interactive Brokers 2. Setting up a bank account in that same offshore jurisdiction 3. I don't plan to have any physical business presence or real estate in the offshore location My intention would be to conduct all my trading through this offshore account - primarily trading US stocks, ETFs, futures, options, and forex. Basically everything I'd be trading relates to US markets. What I'm trying to understand is - how would my US tax obligations work in this scenario? Would I still need to pay taxes in the US? I'm fairly certain I wouldn't need to report anything to the Canadian government in this setup. Is this whole approach even feasible? I imagine with sufficient resources many things become possible, but I'd like to understand the legal framework. I've spent hours searching online but haven't found any comprehensive information about this specific scenario. Any insights would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

CosmicCruiser

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This is a complex situation that requires careful consideration of US tax laws regarding foreign accounts and entities. As a non-US citizen living in the US on a visa, you're generally considered a US tax resident if you meet the substantial presence test, regardless of citizenship status. Even without being a citizen or green card holder, the IRS typically taxes individuals who are "substantially present" in the US on their worldwide income. Setting up an offshore entity doesn't automatically shield you from US tax obligations. The IRS has extensive reporting requirements for US persons (including tax residents) with foreign financial accounts and ownership in foreign entities. These include FBAR (FinCEN Form 114), Form 8938, Form 5471, and others depending on your specific structure. The IRS specifically targets arrangements designed primarily to avoid US taxation. If you control the offshore entity and it doesn't have legitimate business operations beyond holding your investment accounts, it could potentially be disregarded for tax purposes under various anti-avoidance provisions. Your situation would likely also trigger FATCA reporting requirements, as financial institutions worldwide report accounts held by US persons to the IRS.

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Diego Vargas

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Thanks for the detailed response. I wasn't aware of the substantial presence test. How exactly is that calculated? And do these reporting requirements still apply if the offshore entity is structured as a trust rather than a corporation?

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CosmicCruiser

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The substantial presence test is generally met if you're physically present in the US for at least 31 days in the current year AND 183 days during a three-year period (counting all days in current year, 1/3 of days in prior year, and 1/6 of days in the second prior year). With your visa status, you're likely meeting this test unless you spend significant time outside the US. The reporting requirements apply regardless of whether you structure as a trust, corporation, or LLC. Trusts actually have their own complex reporting requirements (Forms 3520 and 3520-A). The IRS looks at the substance of arrangements rather than just their form, so creating a trust doesn't bypass reporting obligations if you're the beneficial owner or have control over the assets.

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Something critical that hasn't been mentioned yet is the concept of "tax residency" vs just physical presence or visa status. The US-Canada tax treaty has specific provisions that might apply to your situation as a Canadian citizen. Even if you meet the substantial presence test, you might be able to claim closer connection to Canada under the treaty's "tie-breaker rules" if you maintain significant ties there. However, claiming treaty benefits requires filing Form 8833, which actually puts you on the IRS radar rather than hiding from it. And if you're trading US securities while physically present in the US, that income may still be considered US-sourced regardless of treaty provisions. The offshore entity adds another layer of complexity because of anti-avoidance rules like CFC (Controlled Foreign Corporation) regulations. If you control the entity, the IRS may look through it and tax you directly.

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Aisha Khan

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Can you clarify how the tie-breaker rules work? I'm a Canadian citizen on TN status but have been in the US for 4 years. I was told I can't claim treaty benefits anymore because I'm clearly a US resident for tax purposes now.

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Tie-breaker rules look at factors like where you have a permanent home, center of vital interests (closer personal/economic ties), habitual abode, and nationality. After 4 years in the US on a TN, it's difficult (but not impossible) to claim closer connection to Canada. You would need to demonstrate stronger ties to Canada than the US - permanent home there, family, bank accounts, voting, etc. The longer you stay in the US, the harder this becomes. Most tax professionals advise that after 3-4 years, you're likely a US tax resident unless you've deliberately maintained stronger Canadian connections. Filing Form 8833 to claim treaty benefits doesn't guarantee approval - it just asserts your position.

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Ethan Taylor

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Everyone's missing a crucial point here. The INTENTION behind your structure matters legally. If the IRS determines the primary purpose of your offshore structure is tax avoidance rather than legitimate business purposes, you could face serious consequences beyond just taxes. I'm not an expert, but I've seen cases where people were hit with civil penalties and even criminal charges under various anti-money laundering and tax evasion statutes. The IRS and FinCEN don't look kindly on structures designed primarily to hide income. If you're trading US markets while physically present in the US, using an offshore entity primarily for tax benefits is exactly the kind of arrangement that gets flagged. The "economic substance doctrine" means the IRS can disregard arrangements that don't have legitimate business purpose beyond tax savings.

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Yuki Ito

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This is a really important point. My friend went down this road with a Cayman Islands setup for his trading business. Ended up with a full IRS audit, massive penalties, and had to pay all back taxes plus interest. The IRS agent specifically cited the lack of economic substance to the arrangement as the primary issue. Not worth the risk.

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