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Anita George

Is using a Cayman Islands corporation as a crypto trader a tax haven or tax evasion?

I'm a crypto algorithmic trader (hundreds of trades daily) currently on a work visa in New York for the next 4.5 years. I'm not a US citizen or permanent resident, just a non-resident alien temporarily living here. The US crypto tax reporting is absolutely brutal - every single transaction across multiple exchanges has to be documented and reported. I'm currently trading across 10 different exchanges, multiple wallets, and dozens of different coins. After researching my options, I'm wondering about this potential setup and whether it constitutes legitimate tax avoidance or illegal tax evasion. I'd appreciate straightforward advice without judgment. Here's what I'm considering: 1. Setting up a legitimate corporation in the Cayman Islands 2. Opening a bank account there under the corporation's name 3. Creating corporate accounts on crypto exchanges (I've confirmed several accept Cayman entities) 4. If I generate, say, $135,000 in trading profits annually, I'd pay the corporate tax rate in the Cayman Islands (which happens to be 0%) Has anyone gone this route? Are there legal implications I should be aware of? Again, just looking for factual information, not moral judgments.

This is a complex situation with serious potential consequences. As a non-resident alien temporarily in the US, you're still subject to US tax laws on income earned while physically present in the US. The IRS looks at "substance over form" - meaning they care about where the trading activity actually occurs rather than just where the accounts are registered. If you're physically located in New York while conducting these trades, the income is likely still US-sourced regardless of where your corporation is established. The IRS considers the "effectively connected income" doctrine, which means income connected to US activities is taxable even if it flows through foreign entities. Additionally, if you personally control the Cayman corporation (which it sounds like you would), you might trigger "controlled foreign corporation" rules, FBAR filing requirements, and FATCA reporting obligations. The penalties for failing to disclose foreign accounts and entities can be severe. What you're describing sounds like it could potentially be classified as a tax evasion scheme rather than legitimate tax avoidance, especially if the primary purpose is to conceal US-based activities.

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Logan Chiang

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But what if they're just moving money they already had before coming to the US? Like if they had crypto holdings before becoming a temporary resident? Would that still count as US income or no?

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Pre-existing assets and investments you owned before becoming a US resident generally maintain their foreign status, but any trading activity you conduct while physically present in the US would likely still be considered US-sourced income. The key distinction is where you're physically located when making trading decisions and executing trades. If you're sitting in New York doing hundreds of daily trades, the IRS would likely consider that US-sourced income regardless of where your accounts are based.

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Isla Fischer

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Anita George

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Thanks for sharing. I'm intrigued. Does taxr.ai deal specifically with crypto trading scenarios? And did they help with the actual implementation or just advisory services?

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Did they actually help you set up anything or just give advice? And what sort of documentation did they provide that would hold up if you got audited?

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Isla Fischer

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PrinceJoe

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that even if you technically structure everything legally, the IRS has tools like the "economic substance doctrine" that allows them to disregard transactions that don't have a legitimate business purpose beyond tax avoidance. If your Cayman corporation doesn't have real economic substance (office, employees, legitimate business operations), and is just a shell for your personal trading activity while you're physically in NY, that's a huge red flag. The courts have consistently upheld the IRS's ability to "look through" these arrangements. Also, the reporting requirements for foreign accounts (FBAR) and foreign corporations (Form 5471) are no joke. Penalties for non-compliance start at $10,000 and go up dramatically from there. Criminal penalties are possible in cases of willful evasion.

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Anita George

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Do you know if establishing proper "economic substance" requires a physical presence in the Cayman Islands? Or would hiring local directors and maintaining an actual office there be sufficient?

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PrinceJoe

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Proper economic substance typically requires more than just a local address and hired directors. The Cayman Islands themselves have economic substance requirements that include things like adequate physical presence, locally-managed bank accounts, local employees, and appropriate local expenditure relative to the level of activity. The key issue in your specific case though is that if you're physically sitting in New York making the trading decisions and executing trades, it's going to be very difficult to argue that the economic activity isn't occurring in the US. The IRS looks at where the value-creating activity is actually happening, not just where the paperwork says it's happening.

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Has anyone actually looked into the tax treaty between the US and Cayman Islands? I thought there wasn't one, which means you'd still have reporting requirements even with a legitimate setup. Theres also FATCA to worry about if ur accounts go over $50k.

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Owen Devar

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You're right - there is no tax treaty between the US and Cayman Islands, which actually makes things more complicated. Without a treaty, there are fewer protections against double taxation and fewer clearly defined rules. Also, as a US-based trader (even temporarily), FATCA reporting kicks in at $50K for foreign accounts, and the OP mentioned potentially making $135K+ which would definitely trigger those thresholds.

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