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How to retroactively make my LLC an S-Corp and amend previous years taxes?

My single member LLC did pretty well in 2022, and we decided to convert to an S-Corp starting in 2023 since our profits had increased significantly. Unfortunately, when my CPA filed our 2022 taxes under the LLC status, I got hit with a massive $54k tax bill that I'm still paying off in installments. I was talking with another business owner at a networking event last week who mentioned something interesting - apparently there's a rule that allows you to go back and amend previous tax years within "3 years and 70 days" of filing. He specifically said you can retroactively change your filing status from a single member LLC to an S-Corp even after the fact, and potentially get reimbursed for a chunk of those taxes. This would be huge if true, but I'm skeptical and want to verify before bringing it up with my new CPA (switched after the tax bill surprise). Does anyone know if this is actually legitimate? And if so, could you point me to the specific section of the tax code that covers this so I can come prepared when I meet with my new accountant next month? I'd really appreciate any insights from someone who's successfully done this.

This is a situation where the details really matter, but I can help clarify. Yes, you can generally amend returns within 3 years of the original filing date (or 2 years from when you paid the tax, whichever is later). However, retroactively electing S-Corp status is a bit more nuanced. The "3 years and 75 days" rule you might be referring to is actually related to late S-Corp elections. If you missed the deadline to elect S-Corp status (which is typically 2 months and 15 days after the beginning of the tax year you want the status to take effect), the IRS allows for late elections under certain conditions. What you're looking for is called a "late entity classification election" using Form 8832, potentially combined with a late S election using Form 2553. The IRS Revenue Procedure 2013-30 provides relief for late S-Corp elections if you meet certain criteria. You'll need to demonstrate you had "reasonable cause" for not making the election timely. That said, you cannot simply amend a return and declare yourself an S-Corp retroactively without going through these specific procedures. The process is more involved than just filing an amended return.

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Thanks for the detailed response! So it sounds like this might actually be possible, but it's not as simple as just filing an amended return. Do I need to file both Form 8832 and Form 2553 in my case, or just one of them? And what kind of documentation would qualify as "reasonable cause" for making a late election?

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For a single-member LLC wanting to become an S-Corp, you'll need both forms. Form 8832 to elect to be treated as a corporation (rather than a disregarded entity), and then Form 2553 to elect S-Corp treatment of that corporation. The order matters. For reasonable cause, the IRS typically accepts explanations like: you relied on advice from a qualified tax professional who failed to make or advise you about the election, you were unaware of the requirement to make the election despite exercising ordinary business care, or similar circumstances beyond your control. Include a detailed letter explaining why you missed the original deadline. Having documentation showing you intended to be treated as an S-Corp (like minutes from meetings discussing this intention) can strengthen your case.

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Another option worth considering is filing Form 4868 to get an extension for the current year while you sort out your prior year issues. My business partner and I went through a similar situation when converting from an LLC to S-Corp retroactively. The specific section of the tax code you want to look at is 26 USC § 1362(b)(5) which provides relief for late S corporation elections. And as others mentioned, Revenue Procedure 2013-30 lays out the specific requirements. Just be aware that you'll need to show that your failure to elect S-Corp status in a timely manner was due to reasonable cause. In our case, we had emails showing we intended to make the election but our previous accountant dropped the ball. Documentation is key here.

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Does the extension actually help with amending prior years though? I thought Form 4868 only extends the current year's filing deadline?

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You're right that Form 4868 only extends the current year's filing deadline. I should have been clearer - the extension doesn't directly help with amending prior years, but it gives you breathing room to focus on the prior year amendments without stressing about current year deadlines simultaneously. When dealing with complex tax situations like changing entity classifications retroactively, it helps to separate the issues so you don't make mistakes under pressure. Get your current obligations extended first, then focus on the prior year amendments with a clear head.

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I went through this exact process last year. Here's what I learned from the experience: 1) The "3 years and 70 days" timeframe your friend mentioned is probably referencing a combination of the standard 3-year amendment period plus the 75-day late election relief period in Rev. Proc. 2013-30. 2) You CAN'T simply file an amended return to change from LLC to S-Corp. You need to: - File Form 8832 to be treated as a corporation first - Then file Form 2553 for S election - THEN amend your return once those are accepted 3) The reasonable cause statement is critical. Mine explained that I was unaware of the tax benefits of S-Corp status until my business grew significantly, and that I would have elected it initially had I been properly advised. 4) Have patience! My process took about 5 months from submission to getting confirmation that both elections were accepted retroactively.

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Did you end up getting a refund for the difference in taxes? And was it automatically processed or did you have to file for that separately?

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This is exactly the type of situation where getting professional help early can save you thousands. I went through a similar conversion process two years ago and learned some hard lessons. First, the timeframe your networking contact mentioned is partially correct but oversimplified. The general rule for amending returns is 3 years from the filing date OR 2 years from when you paid the tax, whichever is later. However, for late S-Corp elections, you're looking at Revenue Procedure 2013-30, which has its own specific requirements and deadlines. The key thing to understand is that you can't just amend your 2022 return to be treated as an S-Corp without first getting approval for a late entity classification election. The IRS needs to accept your late election before you can file amended returns reflecting that status. Here's what worked for me: I documented everything showing my intent to minimize taxes legally (meeting minutes, emails with advisors, business projections), then filed both Form 8832 and Form 2553 with detailed reasonable cause statements. The whole process took about 6 months, but I ultimately saved over $18k in self-employment taxes. One critical point - make sure your new CPA has experience with late elections. Not all tax professionals are familiar with these procedures, and the paperwork needs to be perfect or you'll face delays or rejections.

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This is incredibly helpful! I'm curious about the documentation you mentioned - when you say "meeting minutes" and "business projections," how formal did these need to be? I'm wondering if I have enough documentation to support my case since most of my business decisions were made informally. Also, did you work with a tax attorney in addition to your CPA, or was an experienced CPA sufficient for navigating the late election process?

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I've been following this thread with great interest since I'm dealing with a very similar situation. My single-member LLC had unexpected growth in 2022, and like you, I got hit with a substantial tax bill that could have been significantly reduced with S-Corp treatment. Based on everything I've researched and the excellent advice shared here, the key points seem to be: 1) This IS possible under Revenue Procedure 2013-30, but it's not as simple as just filing an amended return 2) You need BOTH Form 8832 (entity classification election) AND Form 2553 (S election) 3) The "reasonable cause" statement is absolutely critical - document everything showing you intended to minimize taxes legally 4) Timeline matters - you generally have 3 years from filing date or 2 years from payment date to amend I'm curious though - for those who've successfully gone through this process, how did you handle the self-employment tax aspect? One of the biggest advantages of S-Corp status is avoiding SE tax on distributions, but I'm wondering if the IRS scrutinizes reasonable salary amounts more closely when you're making a retroactive election. Also, did anyone run into issues with state tax authorities? My state (California) has its own S-Corp election requirements, and I'm not sure if they automatically follow the federal late election or if I need to file separate state forms. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences - this thread has been incredibly valuable!

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Great summary of the key points! Regarding your questions about self-employment tax and reasonable salary - this is definitely something the IRS pays attention to, especially with retroactive elections. For the salary component, the IRS expects S-Corp owners who provide services to pay themselves "reasonable compensation" as W-2 wages before taking distributions. When making a retroactive election, you'll need to determine what would have been reasonable compensation for 2022 and ensure payroll taxes were properly handled. This can get complicated because you'll essentially need to reconstruct what your payroll should have looked like. As for state requirements, California is particularly tricky since they don't automatically follow federal S elections. You'll likely need to file California Form 2553 separately, and CA has its own deadlines and requirements. Some states are more flexible about following federal late elections, but California tends to be stricter. I'd definitely recommend checking with a tax professional familiar with CA S-Corp requirements before proceeding. The SE tax savings can be substantial, but make sure you factor in the additional complexity and potential payroll tax obligations when calculating your expected benefit. Sometimes the administrative burden and professional fees can eat into the savings more than people initially expect.

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I've been through a similar situation and want to add a few practical considerations that might help with your decision-making process. While the technical aspects have been well covered here (Rev. Proc. 2013-30, Forms 8832 and 2553, reasonable cause statements), there are some financial realities to consider before diving in: 1) **Professional fees can add up quickly** - Between CPA fees for the complex filings, potential attorney consultation, and ongoing S-Corp compliance costs (payroll processing, additional tax returns), you could easily spend $5,000-$10,000 in the first year alone. Make sure your potential tax savings justify these costs. 2) **Payroll complexity** - If your retroactive election is approved, you'll need to establish reasonable compensation for 2022 and handle the payroll tax implications. This often means setting up payroll systems retroactively and potentially owing additional employment taxes that weren't previously required as an LLC. 3) **State compliance varies wildly** - Some states make this process relatively straightforward, while others (looking at you, California and New York) have their own complex requirements that don't always align with federal elections. 4) **Documentation timeline** - Start gathering your supporting documentation now. Business bank statements showing consistent profitability, any communications about business growth or tax planning, and records of when you first learned about S-Corp benefits will all strengthen your reasonable cause argument. The tax savings can definitely be worth it (I saved about $22k over two years), but go in with realistic expectations about the complexity and costs involved. It's not a magic bullet, but it can be a valuable strategy if executed properly.

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This is exactly the kind of realistic perspective I needed to hear. I've been so focused on the potential tax savings that I hadn't fully considered all the ongoing compliance costs and complexity. Your point about professional fees is particularly sobering - $5k-$10k in the first year alone could definitely eat into the benefits, especially since I'm still paying off that $54k tax bill in installments. I'm curious about your experience with the payroll aspect. When you established "reasonable compensation" retroactively for your prior year, did you end up owing additional employment taxes that you hadn't anticipated? And did you have to actually cut yourself paychecks for the prior year, or was there a way to handle it as a paper transaction? Also, do you have any recommendations for CPAs who specialize in this type of late election work? My current CPA seems knowledgeable but has admitted this isn't something they handle frequently, and given the complexity you've outlined, I want to make sure I'm working with someone who really knows these procedures inside and out.

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