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Luca Romano

How to properly report a $1000 loss on rental property in Schedule E (simple rental real estate situation)

I own a single family home that's been rented out all of last year. Looking at my Schedule E, I've got a small loss of about $1,350. I haven't claimed any depreciation and I'm the sole owner of the property. I know this is considered a passive activity, but I'm confused about how to correctly report this loss so I can potentially use it to offset future gains. I've done some research and here's what I think I need to do: * Skip Form 6198 (At-Risk Limitations) since it doesn't apply to my simple rental situation * Complete Form 8582 (Passive Activity Loss Limitations) with: * Part V - list the $1,350 loss for my rental property * Part VII - show unallowed loss of $1,350 with 1.0 ratio * Part III, Line 10 - enter $0 for total losses allowed Then on Schedule E: * Line 22 - enter $0 for deductible rental real estate loss * Line 26 - enter $0 for total rental real estate income/loss Am I understanding this correctly? My goal is to: 1) NOT take these passive activity losses to reduce my taxes this year, but 2) properly document the loss so I can carry it forward to future years. Is my approach right for this simple rental property situation?

Nia Jackson

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You're on the right track, but there are a few important things to clarify about reporting rental losses. First, are you sure you don't want to claim depreciation? Even if you don't "claim" it, the IRS considers it "allowed or allowable" - meaning when you eventually sell the property, they'll reduce your basis as if you had taken the depreciation anyway. So you might as well get the tax benefit now. For your passive loss - yes, you need Form 8582 to calculate your allowed/disallowed passive losses. Your understanding is correct that with a passive rental activity and no passive income to offset it, your current year loss will be suspended and carried forward. However, be aware that if your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) is below $100,000, you might qualify for the special $25,000 allowance for rental real estate activities with active participation, which would let you deduct some losses now. Your Schedule E reporting looks correct if you don't qualify for any of the exceptions to the passive loss rules. The disallowed loss will carry forward indefinitely until you either have passive income or you dispose of the entire activity.

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I always get confused about that depreciation thing. So even if OP doesn't claim depreciation, the IRS will still act like they did when they sell? That seems kinda unfair. Also, what counts as "active participation" for that $25,000 allowance? Is just being the only owner enough?

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Nia Jackson

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Yes, depreciation is considered "allowed or allowable" by the IRS. When you sell a rental property, you must reduce your cost basis by the amount of depreciation you were entitled to take, whether you actually claimed it or not. It's essentially a "use it or lose it" situation - you'll pay the tax consequences later without getting the benefit now if you don't claim it. Active participation is a lower standard than material participation. Generally, you actively participate if you make management decisions like approving tenants, deciding on rental terms, approving expenditures, and similar activities. Being the sole owner typically means you meet this standard as long as you're involved in these kinds of decisions, even if you use a property manager for day-to-day operations.

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CosmicCruiser

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Aisha Khan

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Ethan Taylor

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CosmicCruiser

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Yuki Ito

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Carmen Lopez

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Wait, how does that service work? The IRS phone lines are impossible to get through - I tried calling about my rental property depreciation question for weeks last year and gave up. Does it actually get you to a real person?

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Ethan Taylor

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This sounds like BS honestly. I've called the IRS dozens of times and it's always the same automated system that hangs up on you. No way there's some magic service that gets you through unless they're doing something sketchy. And even if you do get through, most IRS agents give contradictory advice anyway.

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Yuki Ito

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Ethan Taylor

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Andre Dupont

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One piece of advice I don't see mentioned yet - keep VERY detailed records of your disallowed passive losses from year to year. I learned this the hard way when I was audited three years after reporting a large passive loss on a rental. The IRS wanted documentation of EVERY passive loss I'd ever reported and carried forward. Creating a separate spreadsheet that tracks each year's loss, how much was used (if any), and the running total carried forward is essential. Also keep copies of all Form 8582s from previous years.

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QuantumQuasar

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How detailed do these records need to be? Like do I need to track each expense category separately for the carryover or just the total loss amount each year? I've been just writing the total on a notepad file on my computer...

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Andre Dupont

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You should definitely track more than just the total. At minimum, track each property separately if you have multiple rentals, the total loss for each property each year, how much was allowed to be deducted (if any), and the running balance of disallowed losses. I also recommend keeping a copy of the complete Schedule E and Form 8582 for each year, not just the totals. During my audit, the IRS wanted to see the connection between what was reported on Schedule E and what flowed to Form 8582, including all allocation calculations. I had some losses that were partially allowed due to passive income from other sources, and they scrutinized how I calculated those allocations.

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Quick question related to this - does anyone know if short-term rentals (like Airbnb) are treated the same way for passive activity loss rules? I have a vacation home that I rent out part-time and also had a loss last year.

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Jamal Wilson

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Short-term rentals can actually be treated differently in some cases! If your average rental period is 7 days or less, the IRS may consider it a "business" rather than a rental activity. This means it might be reported on Schedule C instead and subject to different passive activity rules. The material participation standards would apply instead of the rental real estate rules.

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