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Ravi Kapoor

How to properly deduct Rental Property Loss on taxes?

So I bought a condo last year as an investment property and finally got it ready to rent out in July. Everything was going fine until September when disaster struck. My property manager (who I've since fired) completely ignored a water leak that ended up causing massive damage. The insurance covered most of it, but I still had to pay the $1,500 deductible plus another $2,200 in miscellaneous expenses to get everything fixed up again. The whole disaster meant the property sat empty for October and November while repairs were happening. I lost about $3,600 in potential rent during those months. I finally got new tenants in December, so I only collected rent for one month in the entire calendar year. When I started doing my taxes and filling out Schedule E, I noticed something weird. Even though I had what feels like significant losses (repair costs, lost rent, etc.), it doesn't seem to be lowering my taxable income at all. I've filed an extension to figure this out. Am I missing something? Should these losses be reported somewhere else besides Schedule E? I expected to see my taxable income reduced due to these rental property losses, but that doesn't seem to be happening.

Freya Larsen

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The issue you're running into is likely related to the passive activity loss limitations. Rental activities are generally considered "passive" by the IRS, and there are restrictions on how much passive loss you can use to offset your regular income. If your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) is under $100,000, you can deduct up to $25,000 in rental losses against your other income. This deduction phases out as your income increases, and disappears completely when your MAGI exceeds $150,000. However, even if you can't use the losses this year, they're not lost forever! These disallowed passive losses are suspended and carried forward to future tax years. You'll be able to use them when you either have passive income from other sources or when you eventually sell the property. Make sure you're documenting everything properly on Schedule E, including all legitimate expenses like insurance, repairs, property management fees, mortgage interest, and depreciation. The fact that the losses aren't reducing your tax bill this year doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Thanks for the explanation. My AGI is actually around $160,000, so that would explain why I'm not seeing any benefit from the losses. I didn't realize there was an income limitation on using rental losses against regular income. So these losses will just carry forward to next year? Will they automatically be applied if I have rental profit next year, or is there something specific I need to do to claim them?

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Freya Larsen

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Yes, the losses will automatically carry forward. When you prepare next year's Schedule E, your tax software (or accountant) should pull in the suspended losses from this year and apply them against any rental profits you have. If you continue to have losses next year, those would also be suspended and carried forward. These suspended losses can accumulate over multiple years until you have passive income to offset them or until you dispose of the property. When you sell the property, you can use all accumulated passive losses even if they exceed the annual limitation.

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Hey there, I was in an almost identical situation last year with my rental duplex. Water damage, bad property manager, the whole nightmare. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why my losses weren't helping me on my taxes until I stumbled across taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai). It's this AI tool that analyzes your tax documents and explains what's happening in plain English. When I uploaded my Schedule E and tax forms, it immediately identified that my losses were being suspended due to the passive activity loss limitations. What was really helpful was that it explained exactly how to track these losses for future years and suggested strategies to potentially qualify as a real estate professional to bypass these limitations in the future. The tool even helped me identify several deductions I had missed - like a portion of my travel expenses to check on the property and some home office expenses related to managing my rental. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with rental property tax complications.

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Omar Zaki

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Did you find it actually gave you better info than like a regular accountant? I've got three rental properties and the tax stuff gets so complicated I usually just pay my CPA a small fortune to deal with it all.

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Chloe Taylor

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I'm skeptical of AI tools for tax purposes. How does it handle complex situations? Like what if the property is in a different state with different tax rules? Or if you're doing cost segregation? Seems like oversimplified advice could actually be risky.

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Chloe Taylor

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Just wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after being pretty skeptical in my previous comment. I decided to try it with my rental property tax situation, and I was honestly surprised by how thorough it was. The tool helped me understand why my passive losses weren't deductible due to my income level, but also identified that some of my expenses could actually qualify as non-passive if I structured my involvement differently. It explained exactly how the passive loss carryforward would work in future years. What really impressed me was that it flagged a depreciation error I made two years ago that even my accountant missed. The explanation was clear enough that I could file an amended return myself. For anyone dealing with rental property tax complications, it's definitely worth checking out.

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Diego Flores

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The passive loss limitations are frustrating, but have you tried contacting the IRS directly to ask about your specific situation? I spent 3 weeks trying to get through to someone at the IRS last year with a similar rental property question. It was absolutely impossible until I found Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). They have this service where they navigate the IRS phone system for you and actually get you connected to a real person. I was super skeptical, but check out their demo: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. They got me connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes after I'd wasted hours over multiple days. The agent explained that in certain cases, like property damage from sudden events, there might be exceptions to the passive activity rules that could apply. Obviously every situation is different, but getting direct clarification from the IRS saved me a lot of guesswork.

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How exactly does this work? I'm confused - do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't you just keep calling yourself until you get through?

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Sean Murphy

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Yeah right. No way this actually works. I've tried calling the IRS for THREE MONTHS straight about an audit issue and literally never got through. If this actually worked, everyone would use it. Sounds like a scam to me.

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Diego Flores

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They don't call for you - they use technology to navigate the IRS phone system and monitor hold times across different IRS departments. When they secure a spot in line, they call you and conference you in directly with the IRS. It's like having someone wait in a virtual line for you. You definitely could keep calling yourself, but the average wait time is over 90 minutes IF you get through at all, and most calls get disconnected. I tried for weeks before finding this. It's not a scam - they don't ask for any personal tax info and you're the one who actually speaks with the IRS agent. They just get you connected.

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Sean Murphy

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I need to eat some humble pie here. After my skeptical comment, I actually tried Claimyr today out of desperation. I've been trying for months to get through to the IRS about an audit issue, and I was connected to an agent in about 30 minutes. The IRS agent was actually really helpful with my rental property questions too. She explained that while most rental losses are subject to passive activity limitations, there are specific cases where casualty losses from sudden events (like my pipe burst) might be treated differently. She walked me through Form 4684 for reporting casualty losses and explained how it interfaces with Schedule E. For anyone dealing with complex rental property tax situations, getting direct guidance from the IRS can save you a lot of headache. And apparently actually getting through to them is possible now. Still shocked this worked.

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StarStrider

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You might qualify as a real estate professional which would allow you to deduct rental losses against ordinary income without limitation. To qualify, you need to: 1. Spend more than 750 hours per year in real estate activities 2. Spend more than 50% of your total working time in real estate businesses 3. Materially participate in each rental property If you were heavily involved in managing the repairs and finding new tenants, you might be closer to qualifying than you think. Keep detailed time logs if you're going this route though - the IRS scrutinizes these claims.

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Zara Malik

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This is potentially dangerous advice without more context. Real estate professional status is one of the most audited areas by the IRS. Unless the original poster actually works in real estate as their primary profession, they almost certainly won't qualify. Having one rental property with some repair issues isn't enough to meet the substantial requirements for this status.

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StarStrider

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You're right that it's heavily scrutinized, and I should have been clearer. Real estate professional status typically requires working in real estate full-time and having multiple properties. For someone with just one condo that had issues, it's unlikely they'd qualify. A more realistic approach for most people is to ensure all legitimate expenses are captured on Schedule E, properly document everything, and then carry forward losses to future tax years when they can be used against rental income or when the property is sold.

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Luca Marino

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Have you looked into whether any of this qualifies as a casualty loss? While the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act limited personal casualty losses, business casualty losses are still deductible, and your rental is a business. The water damage might qualify if it was sudden and unexpected. You'd report this on Form 4684 and potentially get around some of the passive activity loss limitations. Worth investigating!

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Ravi Kapoor

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That's interesting - I hadn't considered the casualty loss angle. The water damage was definitely sudden and unexpected (a pipe burst in the wall). Do you know how this would work with the insurance payments I received? The insurance covered about 85% of the damage, but I still had out-of-pocket costs.

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