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How to handle interest earned in Traditional IRA during backdoor Roth Conversion process

I'm setting up backdoor Roth conversions for this year and running into a small but annoying issue. My strategy is to contribute to my Traditional IRA and then immediately convert the full amount to my Roth IRA once the contribution settles (usually takes like 3-4 business days). The problem is I recently switched from TD Ameritrade to Fidelity for my IRAs, and I've noticed Fidelity's interest rate is significantly higher. With TD, my Traditional IRA would only earn a few cents before conversion (which would round down to zero on tax forms), but with Fidelity, I'm seeing it generate actual dollars in interest. For example, if I contribute $7,000 to my Traditional IRA for 2024, by the time I convert it to Roth, the balance might be $7,003 with that extra $3 coming from interest earned during those few settlement days. My question is: does this little bit of interest income complicate my tax filing? How do I properly report the $3 interest when filing my return? It feels silly to worry about such a small amount, but I want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly and not creating headaches at tax time.

Connor Murphy

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The small amount of interest earned in your Traditional IRA before conversion doesn't make your tax filing dramatically more complicated, but it does require proper reporting. Here's what happens: When you convert from Traditional to Roth, you'll need to report the conversion on Form 8606. Since your Traditional IRA contribution was non-deductible (which is typical for backdoor Roth conversions), you've already paid tax on that $7,000. The $3 interest, however, is pre-tax money that grew in the Traditional IRA, so you'll owe income tax on just that $3 when you convert it. Your IRA custodian (Fidelity) will send you a 1099-R showing the total conversion amount ($7,003). On Form 8606, you'll report your $7,000 non-deductible contribution as your "basis," leaving the $3 interest as the taxable portion of your conversion. Don't stress about this small amount - it's a normal part of the backdoor Roth process. The tax on $3 is minimal, but it's important to report it correctly.

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Yara Haddad

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So just to make sure I understand: if I keep doing this every year and let's say over time these small interest amounts add up to like $50 or something, I'm constantly paying income tax on those small interest amounts during each conversion? Does Fidelity track my basis for me or do I need to keep my own records?

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Connor Murphy

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Yes, that's exactly right. Each year, you'll pay income tax on just the earnings portion that accumulated before conversion. If you convert quickly after contribution (as you're doing), these amounts will likely remain very small. Fidelity will track your annual contributions and distributions, but they don't track your cumulative basis for you. It's ultimately your responsibility to maintain records of your non-deductible contributions by keeping copies of your Form 8606 from each year. This form establishes your basis and is essential if you ever have a mix of pre-tax and after-tax money in your Traditional IRAs.

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For the interest earned in traditional IRA question - I actually switched my process slightly to avoid this issue altogether. Instead of contributing directly to my Traditional IRA, I now make contributions to a non-interest bearing settlement fund within my Traditional IRA. This way the money doesn't earn any interest during the few days before conversion. Both Fidelity and Vanguard offer this option. Basically just select their cash/settlement account option rather than a money market fund when you make the contribution. This has simplified my tax reporting since the conversion amount exactly matches my contribution amount.

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QuantumQuest

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That's a really smart approach I hadn't considered! Does selecting the non-interest bearing settlement fund add any extra steps or time to the process? And is there any downside to doing it this way?

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No extra time at all - it's actually the default holding place for new contributions at most brokerages. You just don't move it to a money market fund (which earns the interest) after contribution. The only downside is if you unexpectedly need to wait longer before converting (maybe due to a processing delay or personal circumstances), you'd miss out on a few dollars of interest during that period. But since the whole backdoor strategy is about quick conversion anyway, this isn't really a meaningful loss. The tax simplification is well worth it in my experience.

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Emma Thompson

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Any recommendations for the best brokerage for doing backdoor Roth? Currently using Schwab but their process is clunky and customer service doesn't seem to understand what I'm trying to do half the time.

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Malik Davis

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I've done backdoor Roth with Fidelity, Vanguard and Schwab. Fidelity has been by far the easiest - their online conversion process takes literally 2 minutes and their customer service actually understands what a backdoor Roth is when you call them. They also generate very clear tax forms. Vanguard's system is ok but feels outdated. Schwab required me to call in for certain steps which was annoying.

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Emma Thompson

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Thanks for the recommendation! I'm going to look into switching to Fidelity. The call-in requirement at Schwab has been the most frustrating part for me too - especially when I get representatives who don't seem familiar with the backdoor process. Clear tax forms would be a huge plus too.

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Ev Luca

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Another option to consider is converting immediately after contribution without waiting for settlement. Many brokerages including Fidelity allow you to initiate the Roth conversion on the same day as your Traditional IRA contribution, even while the funds are still settling. I've been doing this for the past two years and it eliminates the interest issue entirely. The conversion processes simultaneously with the contribution settlement, so there's zero time for interest to accrue. My 1099-R always shows exactly my contribution amount with no earnings portion. The key is to set up the conversion transaction right after making your contribution - don't wait for the contribution to fully clear first. This has made my tax reporting much cleaner since I never have to deal with the small taxable earnings amounts that accumulate during those settlement days.

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Caleb Stone

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This is really helpful! I had no idea you could initiate the conversion before the contribution fully settles. Does this work the same way for all brokerages or is it specific to Fidelity? And are there any risks to doing the conversion while funds are still settling - like could the transaction fail or get delayed if something goes wrong with the original contribution?

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