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Natasha Kuznetsova

IRA Recharacterization - Roth to Traditional - Do I need to report the earnings (NIA)?

I put the full $7500 into my Roth IRA at Fidelity for the 2024 Tax Year earlier this January. But now I'm thinking I should split this between Roth and Traditional instead. I contacted Fidelity about recharacterizing $2500 from my Roth to a Traditional IRA (both at Fidelity and for 2024 Tax Year). The rep mentioned that I also had about $8 in earnings associated with that portion that would be recharacterized along with it. I'm confused about how those earnings are treated tax-wise. Are those $8 taxable this year as interest income? Or do they just become part of my Traditional IRA balance and only get taxed when I eventually withdraw in retirement? Is there any chance Fidelity/IRS treats this as a distribution, which would mean I'd need to handle it as a non-deductible contribution (filing Form 8606)? Sorry if this is a basic question, but I've been searching online and can't find a clear answer about how those tiny earnings get treated in this specific recharacterization scenario.

The good news is that the earnings that get moved with your recharacterized contribution aren't taxable in the current year! When you recharacterize from Roth to Traditional, both the contribution amount ($2500) and its associated earnings ($8) transfer together as if you had originally contributed to the Traditional IRA in the first place. Those earnings will simply become part of your Traditional IRA balance. They won't be treated as a distribution or as current year interest income. They'll only be taxed when you eventually withdraw from the Traditional IRA in the future, just like the rest of your Traditional IRA funds. The recharacterization is basically a "do-over" that lets the IRS treat the contribution as if it went to the Traditional IRA from the beginning. Fidelity will issue a Form 5498 showing your Traditional IRA contribution, and that's all you need for your records.

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Thanks for explaining! But what about Form 8606? Do I need to file that if the Traditional IRA contribution is deductible? And if I'm over the income limit for Traditional IRA deductions, does the recharacterization create a non-deductible contribution that I *would* need to track on Form 8606?

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You only need to file Form 8606 if your Traditional IRA contribution is non-deductible. If you can deduct the full contribution, then no 8606 is needed - you just claim the deduction directly on your tax return. If you're over the income limits for Traditional IRA deductibility (which depends on whether you have a workplace retirement plan and your filing status), then yes, you would need to file Form 8606 to report the non-deductible contribution. This creates "basis" in your Traditional IRA that won't be taxed again when you eventually withdraw it. The earnings portion would still be taxed upon withdrawal, though.

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Emma Wilson

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Malik Davis

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Does it actually work with Fidelity statements specifically? I've tried other tax tools but they don't recognize my Fidelity forms correctly and I end up having to manually enter everything anyway.

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I'm a bit skeptical about these tax tools. How does it handle partial recharacterizations like OP is doing where only some of the money is being moved? And does it generate the actual forms you need to file or just give explanations?

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Emma Wilson

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Yes, it works perfectly with Fidelity statements - it recognized my forms immediately and even pulled out the contribution dates and earnings amounts automatically. No manual entry needed for the basic info. For partial recharacterizations, it handles them perfectly - it shows exactly how much of your contribution and associated earnings should move, and explains the pro-rata calculations. The tool actually showed me that Fidelity had calculated my earnings correctly (I was worried they hadn't). It doesn't generate the actual tax forms, but it tells you exactly what to put where on your tax forms and which ones you need to file.

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GalacticGuru

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Omar Fawaz

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Just to add some perspective - I did a Roth to Traditional recharacterization last year and those earnings really are a non-issue tax-wise. The earnings just go along for the ride with the contribution amount and get treated as if they were in the Traditional IRA all along. The only thing to watch out for is making sure you know whether your Traditional IRA contribution is deductible or non-deductible based on your income and workplace retirement plan status. That determines whether you need Form 8606 or not.

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Thanks for the insight! I do have a 401k at work, and I'm pretty close to the phase-out range for Traditional IRA deductions. So I definitely need to figure out if I can deduct this amount or if I need Form 8606 to track it as non-deductible. Any tips for determining that?

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Omar Fawaz

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The income limits for 2024 Traditional IRA deductibility when you have a workplace plan are $77,000-$87,000 for single filers and $123,000-$143,000 for married filing jointly. If you're below the lower threshold, you get the full deduction. If you're in between, you get a partial deduction. Above the upper threshold, you get no deduction and would need Form 8606. The easiest way to determine this is to use the IRS's online Interactive Tax Assistant for "Can I Deduct My IRA Contributions?" - it walks you through a series of questions and gives you the answer based on your specific situation. Or any tax software will calculate this for you automatically once you enter your income.

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Random question but related - I'm actually doing the opposite (Traditional to Roth recharacterization). Anyone know if the same rules apply in reverse? My earnings in the Traditional were like $12.

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Diego Vargas

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Yes, same basic concept applies in reverse, but with one big difference - when you move from Traditional to Roth, you'll owe taxes on both the contribution amount and the earnings because you're moving from pre-tax to post-tax. The whole amount (contribution + earnings) will be treated as taxable income in the year you make the recharacterization.

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Ella Harper

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Just wanted to confirm what others have said - you're absolutely right to be confused because recharacterization rules are pretty complex! But the good news is that those $8 in earnings won't create any current-year tax issues for you. When you recharacterize from Roth to Traditional, the IRS treats it as if you made the Traditional IRA contribution originally. Both your $2500 contribution and the $8 in earnings will simply become part of your Traditional IRA balance. No current-year income to report, no distribution treatment, and no automatic need for Form 8606. The only thing you'll need to figure out is whether your Traditional IRA contribution will be deductible based on your income and the fact that you mentioned having a 401k at work. If it's fully deductible, you just take the deduction on your tax return. If it's non-deductible (because you're over the income limits), then you'd file Form 8606 to track your basis - but that's about the contribution itself, not those earnings. Fidelity should handle all the paperwork correctly and send you the proper forms showing the recharacterization. The earnings piece really is the easy part of this whole process!

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Isaiah Cross

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm relieved to hear that the earnings portion isn't going to complicate my taxes. I was worried I'd have to track those $8 separately somehow. Since I do have a 401k and my income might put me in that phase-out range, I'll definitely need to calculate whether I can deduct the full $2500 or if I need to use Form 8606. Better to figure that out now than discover it at tax time! One follow-up question - when Fidelity processes this recharacterization, will they send me separate forms for the original Roth contribution and the new Traditional contribution, or does it all get consolidated into one set of tax documents?

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