Traditional to Roth IRA - Recharacterization vs Conversion? Which is better for 2024?
I just put $9,500 into my traditional IRA for 2024 and now FreeTaxUSA is telling me that $0 of it is deductible. Ugh! My income last year was around $180K, which I think means I can still move this money to a Roth IRA somehow? But I'm confused about the terminology. Looking at my options, there's "recharacterization" and "conversion" from Traditional to Roth. Are these the same thing? Is one better than the other for my situation? I don't want to make another mistake and get hit with penalties or something. Has anyone done this before who can explain the difference? I just want to make the smartest move with this money since I can't get the deduction I was hoping for.
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Chloe Harris
The terms sound similar but they're actually different processes with different implications! Recharacterization is basically telling the IRS "oops, I meant to contribute to a Roth all along" - it's like the contribution never happened in the Traditional IRA. This treats your contribution as if it went to the Roth from the beginning. The earnings that happened while the money was in the Traditional IRA will follow the contribution to the Roth. Conversion, on the other hand, means you're keeping the original Traditional IRA contribution as is, but then moving that money to a Roth. The big difference is you'll pay taxes on any pre-tax amounts you convert (though in your case with $0 deductible, it would just be the earnings that are taxable). In your situation with non-deductible Traditional contributions, there's not a huge difference tax-wise between the two options. Recharacterization is probably cleaner since you're still within the timeframe to do it. You have until the tax filing deadline (including extensions) to recharacterize 2024 contributions.
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CosmicCadet
•Thank you for explaining! So if I recharacterize, I'm basically saying I never meant to put it in the Traditional IRA at all? And all the growth would just be treated like it happened in the Roth from the beginning? If I do a conversion instead, I would need to pay taxes on the growth that happened while it was in the Traditional IRA?
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Chloe Harris
•That's exactly right! With recharacterization, it's like hitting an "undo" button - the IRS treats it as if you correctly contributed to the Roth IRA from day one. Any growth follows the contribution and is treated as Roth growth. With conversion, you'd need to pay income tax on any earnings that occurred in the Traditional IRA before conversion. Your contributions wouldn't be taxed again since they were after-tax dollars (non-deductible contributions), but the growth would be added to your taxable income for the year you convert.
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Diego Mendoza
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Anastasia Popova
•Does it work for more complicated situations? I have both 401k and IRA accounts and I think I made too many contributions last year. Not sure if I need to withdraw some or if there's a way to fix it.
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Sean Flanagan
•I'm skeptical about these online tax tools. How is this different from just using TurboTax or talking to a CPA? I've been burned before with "personalized" advice that turned out to be generic templates.
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Diego Mendoza
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Anastasia Popova
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Zara Shah
If you're having trouble getting straight answers from your IRA provider about this, I feel your pain! I spent WEEKS trying to reach someone at Vanguard to help with my recharacterization last year. Endless hold times, disconnects, transferred between departments... was losing my mind. Found this service called https://claimyr.com that got me through to an actual human at Vanguard in under 10 minutes when I'd been trying for days. They have this system that navigates the phone trees and waits on hold for you, then calls when a rep is on the line. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Made the whole recharacterization process SO much faster when I could actually talk to someone who knew what they were doing. Might help if you're running into the same customer service nightmare I was.
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NebulaNomad
•Wait, how does that even work? They somehow jump the queue or something? Sounds kinda like cutting in line, not sure how I feel about that.
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Sean Flanagan
•This sounds like a complete scam. How would some random third party service get you through faster than calling directly? Companies aren't going to give priority access to some service.
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Zara Shah
•It doesn't jump any queue - it just automates the frustrating part of waiting on hold. Their system navigates through all the phone menus and waits in the same hold queue everyone else does, but you don't have to be the one sitting there listening to the hold music. When a real person finally answers, you get a call connecting you directly to them. They don't have any special access or priority - they're just handling the tedious waiting part. I was skeptical too, but it worked exactly as advertised. I had already wasted hours trying to get through myself, so having someone else handle the wait was totally worth it. Not cutting in line at all - just not wasting your time while IN line.
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Sean Flanagan
I have to publicly eat my words about Claimyr being a scam. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it when I needed to call the IRS about an issue with my recharacterization paperwork being processed incorrectly. I'd already spent 3 afternoons trying to get through to the IRS myself with no luck. Used the service and got a call back in about 45 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent confirmed my recharacterization was valid but had been coded incorrectly on their end. Saved me from potentially having to pay taxes twice on the same money. I'm still surprised it actually worked - definitely wasn't expecting it to. Just wanted to follow up here since I was so doubtful before.
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Luca Ferrari
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - if you have ANY other Traditional IRA assets with pre-tax money in them (like from old 401k rollovers), the conversion option gets more complicated because of the pro-rata rule. The IRS won't let you just convert the non-deductible portion - you have to convert proportionally across all your Traditional IRA assets. Recharacterization avoids this issue completely since it's like the Traditional contribution never happened. So if you have other Traditional IRA assets, definitely go the recharacterization route while you still can!
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CosmicCadet
•Oh that's really good to know! I actually do have an old 401k that I rolled into a Traditional IRA last year. So if I did conversion instead of recharacterization, I'd have to convert some of that old 401k money too and pay taxes on it?
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Luca Ferrari
•Yes, that's exactly the issue. With the pro-rata rule, you can't cherry-pick which dollars to convert. If you have $9,500 in non-deductible contributions and, say, $40,000 in pre-tax money from your old 401k rollover (all in Traditional IRAs), then any conversion would be proportionally taxable. If you converted $9,500, about 19% would be considered non-taxable (your non-deductible portion) and 81% would be taxable. The IRS looks at all your Traditional IRAs as one big bucket for this calculation. Recharacterization bypasses this completely since it's treated as if you never contributed to the Traditional IRA in the first place.
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Nia Wilson
Anybody have experience with Fidelity handling these recharacterizations? Their website is confusing me. Do I need to call or can I do it online?
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Mateo Martinez
•I did a recharacterization with Fidelity last year. Had to call - couldn't find any way to do it online. The phone rep was actually really helpful and processed it while I was on the call. Had to confirm I understood the tax implications but it was pretty straightforward once I got through to someone.
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