How to find my EIN number after losing paperwork?
Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a bind. I created a second LLC back in November and had an accountant help me set everything up initially. But then life got crazy (and honestly I got a little overwhelmed with all the paperwork), so I kind of... stopped responding to their emails and calls. Super embarrassing, I know! Fast forward to now, and I need my EIN (Employer Identification Number) for some paperwork, and I have NO idea where to find it. I've gone through all my files and emails but can't seem to locate the actual EIN number anywhere. The accountant probably has it, but I'm too embarrassed to contact them now after ghosting them for months. Is there any way to retrieve my EIN number without having to crawl back to my accountant? Does the IRS have some kind of lookup tool? Really appreciate any help!
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Daniel Washington
There are actually several ways to find your EIN without contacting your accountant (though they'd probably be happy to hear from you regardless!). First, check any previous tax filings for your LLC. Your EIN would be displayed prominently on any tax returns or correspondence with the IRS. If you can't find previous filings, look for the original EIN assignment letter (CP-575) that the IRS sent when you first received your EIN. They typically mail this within two weeks of issuing the number. Can't find that either? Call the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933. They can provide your EIN over the phone after verifying your identity. You'll need to be an authorized person (owner, officer, etc.) and they'll ask for identifying information. As a last resort, if you've ever opened a business bank account, applied for business loans, or filed state tax documents, your EIN would be on those forms as well.
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Aurora Lacasse
β’Would the IRS be able to help if I'm not 100% sure which address I used when setting it up? My home address or the LLC address? I'm worried I'll call and they won't be able to verify me.
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Daniel Washington
β’Yes, they should still be able to help you even if you're unsure about the address. The IRS verification process typically involves confirming your name, your role in the company, the legal business name, and potentially your SSN as the business owner. If there's a discrepancy with addresses, just explain that you may have used either your home or business address. They deal with this situation regularly and have ways to verify you through other means. Just make sure you have your personal identification information ready and the full legal name of your LLC when you call.
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Anthony Young
After spending literally HOURS on hold with the IRS trying to get my EIN for my new business (and never actually speaking to anyone), I discovered taxr.ai and it was a game-changer. I uploaded my LLC formation documents and within minutes they identified where my EIN would likely be listed or how to recover it based on my situation. Check them out at https://taxr.ai - saved me from having to make the awkward call to my former accountant too!
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Charlotte White
β’Does this actually work for retrieving an EIN? I thought those AI tools were just for helping with preparing tax returns and stuff. Can you really find your EIN this way?
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Admin_Masters
β’I'm kinda skeptical about using some random website for retrieving sensitive business info. Did you have to provide a lot of personal details? Was it secure?
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Anthony Young
β’It absolutely works for retrieving EINs! The tool analyzes your business formation documents and can identify if your EIN is actually listed somewhere you might have missed. It also gives you personalized guidance on exactly which IRS forms to file to recover your number based on your specific situation. Regarding security, I was initially concerned too, but they use bank-level encryption and don't store your documents after analysis. I only needed to upload my Articles of Organization and answer a few questions about my business - nothing more sensitive than what's already public record for most LLCs.
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Admin_Masters
Update on my situation: I was super skeptical about taxr.ai from my earlier comment, but I was desperate after waiting on hold with the IRS for 2+ hours. I gave it a try and wow - it actually pointed out that my EIN was listed on page 3 of my operating agreement (which I totally missed) and gave me exact instructions for retrieving it through the IRS if I hadn't found it. The document analysis feature is seriously impressive. Saved me from having to crawl back to my accountant!
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Matthew Sanchez
If you're still struggling to get your EIN and need to speak with someone at the IRS (which is nearly impossible these days), try Claimyr.com. I was in your exact position last month, spent days trying to get through to the IRS Business line with no luck. Claimyr got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own. They have this system that holds your place in line so you don't have to listen to that awful hold music. Check out how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - totally worth it when you're dealing with something as important as your EIN.
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Ella Thompson
β’How does this even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously terrible. I've literally called 30+ times trying to get a person.
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JacksonHarris
β’This seems sketchy. Why would I pay a third party just to call the IRS? Sounds like they're charging for something that should be free. I'll just keep calling myself and eventually get through.
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Matthew Sanchez
β’It works by using an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When they reach a live agent, they call you and connect you directly. It's basically like having someone wait in line for you at the DMV. I had the exact same reaction you did. "Why pay for something that should be free?" But after spending over 7 hours across 3 days trying to get through, I realized my time was worth something too. The IRS is severely understaffed and their phone system is overwhelmed. It's not about paying for something that should be free - it's about valuing your own time.
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JacksonHarris
Well I'm eating my words now. After another full day of failed attempts to reach the IRS (kept getting disconnected after 2+ hours on hold), I broke down and tried Claimyr. I was connected to an actual IRS agent in 35 minutes. The agent looked up my EIN using my name and SSN, verified my identity, and gave me the number over the phone. Problem solved after weeks of frustration. Sometimes you have to admit when you're wrong, and I was definitely wrong about this service being sketchy!
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Jeremiah Brown
Another option - check your bank records! When I lost my EIN paperwork, I remembered that I had to provide my EIN when I opened my business checking account. Called my bank and they had it on file. Saved me a ton of headache dealing with the IRS. Just make sure you talk to the business banking department.
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Lauren Zeb
β’I actually tried this already but the bank said they need me to verify the EIN to confirm my identity... which is the whole problem, lol. Catch-22 situation. But good suggestion that might help others!
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Jeremiah Brown
β’Oh that's frustrating! It seems like each bank has different policies. Mine was willing to provide it after verifying my identity through other means (drivers license, SSN, security questions). Maybe try going into a branch in person? Sometimes face-to-face interactions get better results than phone calls for these kinds of situations. Bring all your business formation documents and personal ID.
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Royal_GM_Mark
Does anyone know if the Secretary of State keeps EIN records? I lost mine too and wondering if I can just look it up through state records since they have all my other LLC info.
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Amelia Cartwright
β’Unfortunately no, the Secretary of State doesn't maintain EIN records. EINs are federal tax IDs issued by the IRS, while the Secretary of State only handles state-level business registrations. The two systems don't share that information.
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Chris King
Pro tip: If you filed for your EIN online through the IRS website, you would have received a confirmation PDF immediately. Search your email for "EIN Confirmation" or check your downloads folder from that time period. I almost paid an accountant to help me find mine before realizing I had the PDF saved in my Google Drive all along!
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Isabella Martin
Lauren, don't feel embarrassed about reaching back out to your accountant! They've probably seen this situation many times before and would likely be happy to help you get back on track. Most accountants understand that business owners can get overwhelmed, especially in the first year. That said, if you really want to avoid that conversation for now, I'd definitely recommend calling the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933 as Daniel mentioned. The wait times can be brutal, but they can absolutely provide your EIN over the phone once they verify your identity. One thing to prepare before calling: gather any documentation you do have about your LLC (Articles of Organization, Operating Agreement, any correspondence from your state, etc.). Having your business's exact legal name and formation date will help speed up the verification process. Also, don't beat yourself up too much about the paperwork situation. Starting a business is overwhelming and you're definitely not the first person to lose track of important documents. The important thing is you're taking steps to get organized now!
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Oliver Cheng
β’Isabella's advice is spot on! I'm actually a newcomer here but went through something similar last year with my first LLC. The embarrassment factor is real, but honestly most accountants are used to clients getting overwhelmed - it's more common than you think. If you do end up calling the IRS, here's a tip that helped me get through faster: call right when they open (7 AM local time) on Tuesday or Wednesday. Mondays and Fridays tend to have the longest wait times. Also, have your Social Security number ready since they'll need it to verify you as the business owner. Don't stress too much about this - you're definitely not the first business owner to temporarily lose track of important paperwork during that chaotic first year!
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Jason Brewer
Hey Lauren! As someone who just went through this exact situation a few months ago, I totally get the embarrassment factor - but please don't let that stop you from getting the help you need! I ended up calling the IRS Business line (800-829-4933) after procrastinating for weeks. Yes, the hold times are absolutely brutal (I waited almost 3 hours), but they were super helpful once I got through. They didn't make me feel bad about losing my paperwork at all - apparently it happens more often than you'd think! Before you call, make sure you have your Social Security number, the exact legal name of your LLC, and your business formation date ready. They'll use these to verify your identity. Even if you're not sure about the address you used, they can still help you as long as you can confirm the other details. One thing that really helped me was calling right at 7 AM when they open - the wait times are much shorter early in the morning. Also, if you get disconnected (which unfortunately happens), don't give up! It took me three attempts but I finally got through. Hang in there - you've got this! And seriously, don't be too hard on yourself about the paperwork situation. Starting a business is overwhelming and you're definitely not alone in feeling lost with all the documentation.
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Kaitlyn Otto
β’Jason's advice about calling at 7 AM is golden! I'm new to this community but wanted to add that you can also try the callback feature if available when you call the IRS line. Sometimes they'll let you request a callback instead of waiting on hold, which saves you from having to listen to that music for hours. Also, since you mentioned your accountant helped set everything up initially, there's a good chance they might have emailed you a copy of the EIN confirmation at some point. Try searching your email for terms like "EIN," "tax ID," "employer identification," or even your accountant's name with "LLC" - sometimes these documents get buried in email chains about other setup items. Don't worry about the awkwardness factor - we've all been there with overwhelming business stuff. You're taking the right steps to get back on track!
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Mei Liu
Hey Lauren! Welcome to the community! As a newcomer here, I wanted to chime in because I literally just dealt with this exact same situation last month with my consulting business. First off, don't feel bad about the accountant situation - life happens and business paperwork can be absolutely overwhelming, especially when you're just starting out. Most accountants have seen this before and would probably be more understanding than you think. That said, if you want to handle this yourself, I'd recommend trying multiple approaches simultaneously since each method has its own challenges: 1. **Deep dive into your emails**: Search for terms like "SS-4", "CP575", "EIN assignment", or even your LLC's name with "federal" or "tax ID". Sometimes these confirmations end up in unexpected email threads. 2. **Check your business bank account setup**: Even if they won't give you the EIN directly, they might have other documents from when you opened the account that reference it. 3. **IRS phone line**: The 800-829-4933 number everyone mentioned is your best bet, but pro tip - if you can't get through during normal hours, try calling right at 7 AM or even try the Spanish language line (800-829-4933 press 2) as it sometimes has shorter wait times, then ask to be transferred to an English-speaking agent. You're definitely not alone in this - hang in there!
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Aisha Abdullah
β’Mei's advice is really comprehensive! I'm also new here but wanted to add one more thing that helped me recently - if you have any business credit applications or insurance policies for your LLC, those documents often require the EIN and might have it listed. I found mine on my general liability insurance application that I had completely forgotten about. Also, regarding the Spanish language line tip - that's brilliant! I never would have thought of that. The hold times on the main English line can be absolutely brutal, so any way to get connected faster is worth trying. Lauren, you're definitely handling this the right way by reaching out for help instead of just putting it off longer. The business world can feel really isolating when you're dealing with stuff like this, but communities like this one really show that we're all figuring it out together!
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Aisha Ali
Hey Lauren! As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say that your situation is SO much more common than you might think - you're definitely not alone in feeling overwhelmed by all the business paperwork! I went through something similar with my small business last year. Here's what worked for me: I actually found my EIN buried in an email from my business bank where they had sent me account setup confirmations. It was in a PDF attachment I had never opened! If that doesn't pan out, I'd also suggest checking any business license applications you might have filed at the city or county level - they often require the EIN and you might have saved copies of those forms. One more tip from my experience: if you do end up calling the IRS, try Wednesday mornings around 8 AM. The wait times seem to be a bit shorter then compared to Mondays/Fridays. And don't worry about not remembering the exact address - they have other ways to verify your identity as the business owner. Honestly, don't stress too much about reaching back out to your accountant either. They've probably dealt with this exact scenario dozens of times and would likely be happy to help you get back on track. Sometimes we build up the awkwardness in our heads way more than it actually is! You've got this! πͺ
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Pedro Sawyer
β’Aisha's suggestion about checking city/county business license applications is really smart! I'm new to this community too, but I just wanted to add that if you applied for any business permits (like a general business license or sales tax permit), those applications almost always require your EIN. I had a similar panic moment when I couldn't find my EIN for my freelance business, and it turned out I had included it on my home occupation permit application that I filed with the city. Sometimes we fill out so many forms when starting a business that we forget where we put important information! Also, totally agree about Wednesday mornings for calling the IRS - I've heard that tip from several other business owners and it seems to be consistently better than other times. Lauren, don't be too hard on yourself about this whole situation. The first year of business ownership is like drinking from a fire hose, and losing track of paperwork is honestly a rite of passage! π
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GalacticGladiator
Hey Lauren! As a newcomer to this community, I totally understand the embarrassment you're feeling - but honestly, this happens to SO many new business owners! The amount of paperwork when starting an LLC can be absolutely overwhelming. Here's a systematic approach that might help you track down your EIN: **Check these places first:** - Any emails with "SS-4" or "EIN Assignment Letter" in the subject line - Your business banking paperwork (loan applications, account opening documents) - Any business insurance applications you may have filled out - State business registration confirmations (sometimes they reference the federal EIN) **If you still can't find it:** The IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line (800-829-4933) really is your best bet. Yes, the wait times are brutal, but they can provide it over the phone. Call right at 7 AM on Tuesday or Wednesday for shorter waits, and have your SSN, LLC's exact legal name, and formation date ready. **About your accountant:** I know it feels awkward, but they've definitely seen this situation before! Most accountants understand that new business owners get overwhelmed. A simple "Hi, I got swamped with everything and lost track of my EIN - could you help me locate it?" would probably be totally fine. You're taking the right steps by addressing this now. Don't be too hard on yourself - the learning curve for new business ownership is steep for everyone! π
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Amara Nnamani
β’As someone new to this community, I just wanted to echo everyone's support here - Lauren, you're definitely not alone in this! I'm going through my first year of business ownership too, and the paperwork situation can feel absolutely overwhelming. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is checking if you have any business credit monitoring services set up (like Experian Business or Dun & Bradstreet). When you sign up for those, they often ask for your EIN and might have it stored in your profile or account setup emails. Also, if you used any online business formation services (like LegalZoom, Incfile, etc.) in addition to your accountant's help, they sometimes send follow-up emails with tax ID information or next steps that might reference your EIN. GalacticGladiator's systematic approach is really solid - I'd definitely try the email search terms they suggested first since that's the quickest option. And honestly, reaching back out to your accountant might not be as awkward as you think. You could even frame it as wanting to get back on track with your business finances, which shows you're being responsible about moving forward! Hang in there - this is just one of those business ownership hurdles that feels huge when you're in it, but you'll get through it! πͺ
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Malik Thompson
Hey Lauren! As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to reach out because I literally went through this exact same situation with my small business just a few months ago - the embarrassment, the lost paperwork, the avoidance of calling the accountant... all of it! First, please don't beat yourself up about this. The first year of running a business is like trying to drink from a fire hose, and getting overwhelmed with paperwork is honestly more of a rite of passage than an exception. Here's what I wish someone had told me when I was in your shoes: **Quick wins to try first:** - Search your email for "CP575" - that's the actual form number for the EIN assignment letter - Check your business bank account opening paperwork one more time, specifically looking for any "business profile" or "account application" documents - If you filed any annual reports or business renewals with your state, sometimes those reference your federal EIN **The IRS call strategy that worked for me:** Call 800-829-4933 at exactly 7:00 AM on a Tuesday or Wednesday. I know everyone says this, but it really does make a difference. Have your SSN, LLC legal name, and formation date ready. Even if you're fuzzy on the address details, they can work with you. **About your accountant:** I totally get the embarrassment factor, but here's the thing - they've probably been wondering how you're doing and would likely be relieved to hear from you! A simple "Hey, I got overwhelmed with everything but I'm ready to get back on track. Could you help me locate my EIN?" is probably all you need. You've got this! This is just a speed bump, not a roadblock. π
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Mason Lopez
β’Malik's advice is really spot-on! As someone who's also new to this community, I wanted to add that the "CP575" search tip is gold - I wish I had known that specific form number when I was searching through my emails for my EIN last year. One thing that helped me when I finally worked up the courage to call the IRS was writing down all my information beforehand (SSN, business name, formation date) so I wouldn't get flustered during the call. The agents are actually pretty patient and helpful once you get through - they deal with this situation all the time. Lauren, I know it feels like you're the only one who's ever lost important business documents, but honestly, reading through this thread shows just how common this experience is! The fact that you're actively trying to solve this problem shows you're being responsible about your business. Don't let the embarrassment hold you back from getting the help you need - whether that's from the IRS or from reaching back out to your accountant. You're going to get through this, and a year from now you'll probably be giving advice to someone else in the same situation! πͺ
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PixelWarrior
Hey Lauren! As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say that your situation resonates with me so much - I went through almost the exact same thing with my consulting business earlier this year, including the whole "ghosting the accountant out of embarrassment" part! One approach that hasn't been mentioned yet: if you remember roughly when you applied for your EIN (you mentioned November), try checking your browser's download history from that time period. If you applied online through the IRS website, the confirmation PDF might still be sitting in your Downloads folder even if you forgot you saved it. Also, if you used any business formation services or legal document providers when setting up your LLC, they sometimes send follow-up emails weeks or months later with "next steps" information that might reference your EIN. I found mine in an unexpected email from my business registration service that was titled something like "Don't forget these important tax steps" - definitely not where I expected to find it! The IRS phone line advice everyone's giving is solid, but if you want to avoid that wait time, honestly consider just reaching back out to your accountant. I was dreading that conversation for months, but when I finally did it, they were actually relieved to hear from me and had my EIN within 5 minutes. Sometimes the anticipation of awkwardness is way worse than the actual conversation. You're definitely going to figure this out - this thread shows how supportive this community is and how common your experience really is! π
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