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Samantha Howard

How to avoid owing taxes on dual income with side jobs

My husband and I file taxes as married filing jointly and we're constantly getting hit with a huge tax bill every year. Our combined income is pretty solid - I make around $235k and he brings in about $210k. His income includes his regular job plus a side gig ($40k) and a small consulting business ($45k). We tried using the W-4 tax withholding estimator since we're worried we're not having enough taken out of our paychecks. It's saying we need an additional $3500 withheld from EACH pay period! That's absolutely insane! After taxes, insurance and 401k contributions, my take-home is about $5100 and his is around $6300. We have two kids in daycare, and if we had that much extra withheld, we literally couldn't afford childcare. But owing $18k in taxes every April isn't sustainable either. We're both really frustrated because we thought higher salaries would make life easier, but it's just creating more financial stress. Any advice on how we can reduce our tax liability? We're desperate for solutions here!

When you have multiple income sources like this, withholding calculations get tricky! The W-4 calculator is showing you need more withheld because your side income doesn't have automatic withholding like your main jobs. You have a few practical options to avoid that big tax bill without destroying your monthly cash flow: 1. Make quarterly estimated tax payments on the side income instead of increasing regular withholding. This spreads the pain throughout the year rather than hitting your regular paychecks. 2. Look into increasing retirement contributions - maxing out both 401ks would reduce your taxable income significantly. 3. Consider a dependent care FSA to pay for some childcare expenses with pre-tax dollars (up to $5,000). 4. Check if your consulting business qualifies for additional deductions or if forming an S-Corp might help reduce self-employment taxes. The key is balancing withholding with tax-reducing strategies rather than just withholding more!

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This is super helpful! For the quarterly payments, how do you figure out how much to pay? Is there some form or calculator for that? And if we started doing that now, would it help for this year's taxes or just next year?

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For quarterly payments, you can use Form 1040-ES which has a worksheet to calculate your estimated payments. Take last year's income from the side gigs, calculate roughly 25-30% of that (depending on your tax bracket), and divide by 4 for each quarterly payment. If you start now, it absolutely helps for this tax year - the IRS wants to see you paying as you earn income. For the S-Corp question, consult with a tax professional, but generally once your business income exceeds $40,000-50,000, it's worth looking into because you can pay yourself a reasonable salary and take the rest as distributions which aren't subject to self-employment taxes.

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Don't forget to look at the business structure for the consulting income. We were in a similar boat and switching to an S-Corp saved us about $7k in self-employment taxes. You'll need to pay yourself a reasonable salary but the rest can be taken as distributions which aren't subject to SE tax. You'll have a bit more paperwork but the tax savings are usually worth it once you're making over $40k from the business.

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We've actually been thinking about this! When you switched to an S-Corp, did you have to hire an accountant or could you handle it yourself? And do you still do quarterly estimated payments?

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We hired an accountant for the initial setup and first year's taxes - it was definitely worth the money. After that, I handle most of it myself using QuickBooks and meet with the accountant just once a year. You still need to make quarterly estimated tax payments, but they're much more predictable. You'll pay yourself a salary with regular payroll taxes withheld (which satisfies the IRS requirement), and then you can take distributions throughout the year for the rest. The big advantage is those distributions aren't subject to the 15.3% self-employment tax, just regular income tax.

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Has anyone tried adjusting their W-4 to increase withholding on just one person's paycheck instead of both? My wife and I found it easier to have extra withholding from just the higher income so we could better track it, rather than messing with both paychecks.

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Yeah, we do this! We have the extra withholding come out of my husband's check since it's bigger, and mine stays the same. Makes it easier to budget since only one paycheck changes. Just make sure the total additional withholding covers what you need across both incomes.

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One strategy that's worked really well for us is maxing out HSA contributions if you have access to a high-deductible health plan. It's triple tax-advantaged (deductible going in, grows tax-free, tax-free withdrawals for medical expenses) and can really help reduce your taxable income. With two kids, you probably have plenty of medical expenses to justify it. Also, don't overlook the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit - it phases out at higher incomes but you might still qualify for some benefit. And if your employer offers dependent care FSA, you can set aside up to $5,000 pre-tax for childcare expenses. For the side income withholding issue, consider setting up a separate business checking account and automatically transferring 25-30% of each payment into a "tax savings" account. Then make quarterly estimated payments from there. It helps psychologically because you never see that money as "yours" to spend.

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