How to Handle MPF Withdrawal After Relocating from Hong Kong to the US?
Hey tax folks, I relocated from Hong Kong to the US back in October 2023 and applied for my MPF (Mandatory Provident Fund) withdrawal before leaving. The situation is a bit complicated because my former employer in Hong Kong made their final contribution in mid-November, but I didn't actually receive the MPF withdrawal until February 2024, when I was already living in the US. I'm super confused about how this will be treated for US tax purposes. When the entire MPF amount (around $85,000 HKD) was transferred from my MPF account to my US bank account, does the IRS consider this as: 1. Sale of capital asset? 2. Regular income? 3. Early withdrawal from a retirement fund with penalties? Alternatively, is there a way I could use the MPF withdrawal amount to fund a Roth IRA here in the US? Would it qualify as some kind of transfer between retirement plans? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated as I'm preparing for the upcoming tax season. I really don't want to mess this up!
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Gabriel Freeman
The tax treatment of your Hong Kong MPF withdrawal in the US depends on several factors. Since you're now a US resident for tax purposes, you'll need to report this transaction on your US tax return. First, the MPF withdrawal would generally be considered income rather than a capital asset sale. The US doesn't recognize the MPF as a "qualified" retirement plan under US tax laws, so it doesn't get the same treatment as US retirement accounts. For US tax purposes, this would typically be reported as ordinary income on your tax return. Unfortunately, since the MPF isn't considered a qualified retirement account by the IRS, you generally can't directly roll it over into a Roth IRA as a tax-free transfer. The good news is that the US-Hong Kong tax treaty might provide some relief. You should also look into the Foreign Tax Credit if you paid any Hong Kong taxes on this withdrawal.
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Laura Lopez
•Thanks for the response. Do you know if the US-Hong Kong tax agreement is still valid after all the political changes in recent years? And would it matter that I contributed to MPF with post-tax income while working in HK? Seems unfair to be taxed twice on the same money.
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Gabriel Freeman
•The US-Hong Kong agreement on taxation still remains in effect despite the political changes. This is because it was established as a separate arrangement from agreements with mainland China. Regarding your concern about double taxation, that's exactly what the Foreign Tax Credit is designed to address. Since you contributed to the MPF with post-tax income in Hong Kong, you may be eligible to claim a credit for those taxes already paid. You would need to file Form 1116 with your US tax return to claim this credit, which could offset some of your US tax liability on the withdrawal.
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Victoria Brown
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Samuel Robinson
•Did they actually help you with filing the taxes or just gave you advice? I'm in a similar boat with Singapore CPF funds and honestly don't even know where to start. US tax system is so confusing compared to where I came from.
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Camila Castillo
•I'm skeptical about these online services. How do you know they're giving accurate advice? Did you crosscheck with a CPA? Foreign retirement accounts are super complicated and I'd be nervous trusting an AI with something the IRS might audit.
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Victoria Brown
•They provide a detailed tax analysis and guidance, but I still filed my own taxes using the information they provided. It essentially gave me a roadmap of exactly what to do, which forms to use, and how to report everything correctly. I actually did consult with a CPA first, but found they weren't very familiar with Hong Kong's MPF specifically. What I liked about taxr.ai was that they had specific expertise in cross-border retirement accounts from various countries. They provided references to specific IRS rulings and tax codes that applied to my situation, which gave me confidence in their guidance. The documentation they provided would also be helpful if I ever faced an audit.
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Camila Castillo
I want to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai since I was skeptical in my earlier comment. After researching more about my Singapore CPF to US transfer situation and finding conflicting advice, I decided to try the service. I'm actually really impressed with how thorough their analysis was. They identified that my situation qualified for a partial exemption under a specific provision that none of the generic tax advice articles mentioned. They provided all the IRS references and even a template for how to document everything on my tax forms. The most valuable part was their explanation of how the Singapore-US tax treaty applied specifically to CPF withdrawals and how that differs from other retirement accounts. Saved me a ton of research and potentially thousands in unnecessary taxes!
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Brianna Muhammad
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JaylinCharles
•How does this even work? The IRS phone system is completely broken - I tried calling for 3 days straight during my lunch break and never got through. I'm intrigued but sounds too good to be true.
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Laura Lopez
•This sounds like a scam. How could a third-party service possibly get you through to the IRS faster than calling directly? The IRS doesn't give preferential treatment to certain callers. And what's the cost for this "miracle" service?
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Brianna Muhammad
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Laura Lopez
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Eloise Kendrick
Something important to consider with your MPF withdrawal is the timing. Since you received it in 2024, it will be part of your 2024 tax return (filed in 2025), not your 2023 return. Also, check if you're eligible for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion for part of 2023. If you were a bona fide resident of Hong Kong for part of the year or meet the physical presence test, you might be able to exclude some foreign income from US taxation.
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Debra Bai
•Thanks for mentioning the tax year timing - that's a good point I hadn't considered! For the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, would that apply to the MPF withdrawal itself? Or just to my regular Hong Kong salary from before I moved?
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Eloise Kendrick
•The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion generally applies only to wages, salaries, professional fees, and other compensation for personal services performed. Unfortunately, retirement account withdrawals like your MPF distribution wouldn't qualify for this exclusion as they're not considered earned income. The exclusion would only apply to your regular Hong Kong salary from before you moved, not to the MPF withdrawal. This is why many expats returning to the US try to time their foreign retirement withdrawals strategically, though that's not always possible with mandatory distributions like yours.
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Lucas Schmidt
Has anyone used turbotax to report foreign retirement distributions? I've got a similar situation with an Australian super fund and wondering if the software can handle it or if I need to go to a professional.
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Freya Collins
•I used TurboTax for my UK pension withdrawal last year. It works but you have to know exactly what you're doing. The software doesn't specifically ask about foreign retirement accounts, so I had to report it as "Other Income" and then provide a detailed explanation in the notes section. Also make sure you convert all amounts to USD using the correct exchange rates.
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Andre Rousseau
Just wanted to add another perspective on the MPF withdrawal taxation. I handled a similar situation for my client who moved from Hong Kong to the US in 2022. One thing that often gets overlooked is that you may need to file Form 8938 (Statement of Specified Foreign Financial Assets) if your MPF account balance exceeded certain thresholds before withdrawal. Even though you've withdrawn the funds, the IRS still wants to know about foreign accounts you held during the tax year. Also, regarding the timing of when you received the funds versus when your employer made their final contribution - the IRS generally uses the "constructive receipt" principle. Since you couldn't access the funds until February 2024, that's likely when it becomes taxable income for US purposes, regardless of when the employer contribution was made. Make sure to keep detailed records of the Hong Kong taxes (if any) withheld from your MPF withdrawal, as this will be crucial for claiming the Foreign Tax Credit. The documentation from your MPF provider should show any withholding taxes that were deducted.
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Giovanni Greco
•This is really helpful information about Form 8938 - I had no idea about that requirement! Quick question: do you know what the threshold amounts are for filing Form 8938? I'm trying to figure out if my MPF balance would have triggered this requirement. Also, when you mention "constructive receipt," does that mean the February 2024 date is definitely when I should report this income, even though the employer contribution happened in November 2023? I want to make sure I get the timing right since this affects which tax year I need to file this under.
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Hazel Garcia
•For Form 8938, the threshold depends on your filing status and where you live. For US residents filing jointly, it's $100,000 on the last day of the tax year or $150,000 at any time during the year. For single filers, it's $50,000/$75,000 respectively. Since your MPF was around $85,000 HKD (roughly $11,000 USD), you probably wouldn't meet the threshold. Regarding constructive receipt, yes - February 2024 is when you should report it since that's when you actually had access to and received the funds. The November 2023 employer contribution doesn't matter for US tax timing purposes because you couldn't withdraw it then. So this will go on your 2024 tax return, not 2023. Also worth noting - make sure to convert the HKD amount to USD using the exchange rate on the date you received the funds (February 2024), not when the contribution was made.
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Nia Jackson
I went through a very similar situation when I moved from Hong Kong to the US in 2022, so I can share some practical insights from my experience. First, you're absolutely right to be concerned about the tax treatment. The IRS will treat your MPF withdrawal as ordinary income since the US doesn't recognize the MPF as a qualified retirement plan. This means it gets taxed at your regular income tax rates, not capital gains rates. One thing I learned the hard way is that you should definitely look into whether Hong Kong withheld any taxes from your MPF withdrawal. Many people don't realize that Hong Kong may have deducted some taxes at source, especially if you had any employer contributions that hadn't fully vested. If they did, you can potentially claim a Foreign Tax Credit on Form 1116 to offset some of your US tax liability. Regarding the Roth IRA question - unfortunately, you can't directly roll over MPF funds into a Roth IRA since the IRS doesn't consider it a qualified foreign pension plan. However, if you have earned income in the US in 2024, you could potentially use some of the withdrawal money to fund a Roth IRA contribution (up to the annual limits), though this would be considered a regular contribution, not a rollover. Make sure to keep all your MPF withdrawal documentation, including any foreign tax forms, as the IRS may want to see proof of the foreign taxes paid if you claim the credit.
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Savannah Glover
•Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful since you went through the exact same situation. I have a couple of follow-up questions if you don't mind: 1. How did you figure out if Hong Kong withheld any taxes from your MPF withdrawal? Did your MPF provider give you specific documentation about this, or did you have to request it separately? 2. When you filed Form 1116 for the Foreign Tax Credit, did you run into any issues with the IRS accepting Hong Kong taxes as creditable? I've heard mixed things about whether all foreign taxes qualify. 3. For the currency conversion, did you use the exchange rate from the day you received the funds, or did you use some kind of average rate for the month/year? I'm trying to get all my documentation in order now so I don't scramble when it's time to file. Your practical insights are much more helpful than the generic advice I've been finding online!
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