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Early Roth 401k withdrawal rules - can I take out contributions penalty-free before 59 1/2?

I've been contributing to my employer's Roth 401k plan for about 6 years now and have built up a pretty substantial amount. I've consistently maxed it out each year and have personally contributed around $130K so far (not counting any growth or employer matching). All of this is invested in a fund that tracks the S&P 500. I'm currently 47 years old and facing a situation where I need to access about $95K for some unexpected expenses. I'm wondering if I can withdraw this amount penalty-free since it's less than my total personal contributions? I understand I'd need to sell some of my fund shares to make this withdrawal. What I'm confused about is how taxes work in this situation - do I have to pay taxes on any earnings that are part of those shares? Does the IRS view it as pulling out contributions first, or is each withdrawal a mix of contributions and earnings? Also, does the "5-year rule" apply to my situation? I've heard about this but I'm not clear if it impacts penalty-free withdrawals of contributions or just the earnings portion. Any help understanding how Roth 401k early withdrawals work would be really appreciated!

Unfortunately, Roth 401(k) plans don't have the same withdrawal flexibility as Roth IRAs when it comes to early withdrawals. Unlike a Roth IRA where you can withdraw your contributions at any time tax and penalty free, a Roth 401(k) doesn't allow you to selectively withdraw just your contributions. With a Roth 401(k), any withdrawal before age 59½ is considered a "non-qualified distribution" and will be prorated between your contributions and earnings. This means each withdrawal is treated as partly contributions (which would be tax-free) and partly earnings (which would be subject to both income tax and a 10% early withdrawal penalty). The proration is based on the percentage of contributions versus earnings in your entire account. So if your account is 70% contributions and 30% earnings, then 70% of your withdrawal would be tax-free and 30% would be taxable and potentially subject to the 10% penalty. One option to consider would be rolling your Roth 401(k) into a Roth IRA, waiting the required 5-year holding period (if you don't already have an established Roth IRA), and then you could withdraw your contributions penalty-free. However, this strategy takes time and planning.

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Wait, so if I roll my Roth 401k into a Roth IRA, there's a 5-year waiting period before I can access the rolled-over contributions? I thought the 5-year rule only applied to earnings, not contributions? Also, if I already have a Roth IRA that I opened 10 years ago, would I still need to wait 5 years after the rollover?

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Good questions. When you roll over a Roth 401(k) to an established Roth IRA that you've had for more than 5 years, your contributions to the 401(k) can generally be withdrawn tax and penalty free immediately after the rollover. The 5-year clock for contributions is based on when you first established any Roth IRA, not when you did the rollover. The earnings portion would still need to satisfy both the 5-year rule and a qualifying event (like age 59½) to be withdrawn tax and penalty free. Since you mentioned having a 10-year-old Roth IRA, you'd have already satisfied the 5-year rule for any withdrawal purposes.

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Thanks for this suggestion. I actually looked into the loan option with my plan administrator yesterday. They do offer loans but only up to $50k as you mentioned, and I need about $95k for my situation. I also have concerns about the repayment terms since my job situation isn't 100% stable right now. Do you know if it's possible to do a combination approach - maybe take the maximum loan of $50k and then do a withdrawal for the remaining amount I need? Would that at least minimize the tax hit compared to withdrawing the full amount?

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Yes, you can absolutely use a combination approach. Taking the maximum loan of $50k and then withdrawing the additional $45k you need would definitely minimize your overall tax hit and penalties. With this approach, the $50k loan would have no immediate tax consequences as long as you make the required payments. Then only the $45k withdrawal would be subject to the pro-rata rule for determining how much is considered contributions versus earnings (and thus how much would be subject to taxes and the 10% early withdrawal penalty).

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Just wanted to point out a less-known option - check if your 401k plan allows for hardship withdrawals. These still have taxes on earnings and potentially the 10% penalty, but they're available for specific circumstances like preventing eviction/foreclosure, certain medical expenses, college tuition, or home purchase. The advantage is that hardship withdrawals don't require repayment like loans do. Some plans also allow for withdrawals at age 55 without penalty if you separate from service - something to consider if you're closer to that age than 59½.

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Adding to this - if your need is COVID-related, check if your plan still offers any CARES Act withdrawal provisions. Some plans extended these options. These special withdrawals allow for spreading the income taxes over three years and waive the 10% early withdrawal penalty.

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