What Taxes Apply to Early Withdrawal from Roth 403(b) for 2025?
Hey everyone, I need some clarity on the tax implications for taking an early withdrawal from my Roth 403(b). Let's say I'm planning to pull out $5,000 from my account (just using a simple number for the example). I know there's definitely that 10% early withdrawal penalty I can't escape, but what I'm confused about is whether I'll owe income tax on the withdrawal too, considering these were already post-tax contributions. The thing is, when I spoke with my bank, they estimated the withholding at only about $300-400 at a 24% rate, which seems way off to me. Wouldn't it be higher? Or am I missing something about how Roth accounts work with early withdrawals? Just trying to figure out what I'll actually end up with after all the taxes and penalties. Thanks in advance for any insight!
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Liam O'Sullivan
The good news is that with a Roth 403(b), you don't pay income tax on withdrawals of your contributions (the money you put in) because, as you mentioned, those were already taxed. However, any earnings (growth) on those contributions would be subject to both income tax and the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59½ and don't qualify for an exception. So if you're withdrawing $5,000 and all of that is from your original contributions (not earnings), you would only face the 10% penalty ($500) and no additional income tax. But if part of that $5,000 includes earnings, that portion would be taxed as ordinary income plus the 10% penalty. The bank's withholding estimate sounds like they might be calculating based on just the earnings portion or possibly misunderstanding your situation. Roth accounts have specific ordering rules for withdrawals, with contributions coming out first, then conversions, and finally earnings.
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Amara Okonkwo
•Wait, I'm confused. I thought Roth accounts had a 5-year rule too? Does that apply here? And how do you know which part is contributions vs earnings when you withdraw?
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Yes, you're absolutely right about the 5-year rule. Roth 403(b)s have a 5-year holding requirement that starts from your first contribution. If you haven't met this requirement, even your contributions could be subject to taxes when withdrawn early. Regarding tracking contributions vs. earnings, your 403(b) administrator should provide statements showing your contribution basis separately from earnings. When you request a withdrawal, you can ask for a breakdown of what portion consists of contributions versus earnings. They track this information for tax reporting purposes.
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Giovanni Marino
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Fatima Al-Sayed
•Does this actually work for figuring out the 5-year rule stuff too? My 403b is with Fidelity and they seem confused every time I call them about this exact issue.
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Dylan Hughes
•I'm skeptical...how does it know the specific rules for your 403b plan? Aren't those different for every employer? Seems like you'd still need to talk to your plan administrator.
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Giovanni Marino
•It absolutely works for the 5-year rule calculations. The tool has built-in logic for all the major retirement account types including 403(b)s, and it can determine your 5-year holding period based on the account opening date and contribution history you provide. Every plan follows the same IRS regulations regarding the 5-year rule and taxation of earnings vs. contributions, though you're right that there can be some employer-specific details. The tool prompts you to upload your plan documents or summary plan description if available, which allows it to account for any unique provisions in your specific plan.
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Fatima Al-Sayed
Just wanted to follow up - I actually tried taxr.ai after posting here and it was super helpful for my situation! I had a complicated mix of rollovers and direct contributions to my Roth 403(b), and I was completely confused about which 5-year clock applied to which portion. The tool broke everything down by contribution date and type, and showed me exactly how much I could withdraw without taxes vs with just the penalty vs with both taxes and penalty. Saved me from making a costly mistake for sure!
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NightOwl42
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Sofia Rodriguez
•How does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't I just do that myself and save whatever they charge?
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Dylan Hughes
•Yeah right, nobody gets through to the IRS in 15 minutes. I've tried calling multiple times and always got the "due to high call volume" message and a hangup. This sounds like a scam to me.
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NightOwl42
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Dylan Hughes
I need to apologize and update my skeptical comment from earlier. After waiting on hold with the IRS for 2+ hours and getting disconnected TWICE yesterday about my Roth 403(b) question, I broke down and tried Claimyr. Got connected to an IRS representative in 17 minutes while I was making dinner. The agent confirmed exactly what I needed to know about my early withdrawal taxation - way different than what my plan administrator told me! Turns out a portion of my account was still subject to the 5-year rule so I would have messed up my taxes if I'd gone ahead with the full withdrawal. Definitely worth it.
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Dmitry Ivanov
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if you qualify for any exceptions to the 10% early withdrawal penalty! There are several that might apply: - First-time home purchase (up to $10k) - Qualified education expenses - Unreimbursed medical expenses over 7.5% of your AGI - Health insurance premiums during unemployment - Disability - Birth or adoption expenses (up to $5k) Doesn't help with the regular income tax on earnings, but could save you from that 10% hit.
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Mei Chen
•Do these exceptions work the same for 403(b) as they do for IRAs? I thought some of them were IRA-specific. I'm potentially looking at the education expenses exception.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•The exceptions do vary somewhat between 403(b)s and IRAs. For education expenses specifically, yes, that exception applies to 403(b)s as well as IRAs. Qualified higher education expenses for yourself, spouse, children, or grandchildren would qualify you for a penalty-free withdrawal, though you'd still owe income tax on any earnings portion. Some exceptions are identical across account types, while others have slightly different rules. The first-time homebuyer exception is more limited with 403(b)s compared to IRAs, for instance. If education expenses are your situation, you should be good to go!
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Ava Thompson
Has anyone used the "substantially equal periodic payments" (Rule 72t) option to avoid the penalty? I'm considering this for my 403b but don't want to be locked into withdrawals for 5 years if I can avoid it.
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Miguel Herrera
•I did this with my 401k a few years back. Works fine but be SUPER careful with the calculations. If you mess up even slightly, the IRS will retroactively apply penalties to ALL previous withdrawals. I paid a CPA to set mine up and still double-check everything each year. Not worth DIYing this one.
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Oliver Brown
Just wanted to add some clarity on the withholding estimate you got from your bank. The $300-400 they quoted at 24% might actually be correct if they're only withholding on the earnings portion of your withdrawal, not the full $5,000. Banks often use conservative estimates for withholding because they know contributions from Roth accounts come out tax-free. If your $5,000 withdrawal is mostly contributions with only a small portion being earnings, then 24% of just that earnings amount would result in much lower withholding than you'd expect. However, don't forget you'll still owe that 10% early withdrawal penalty on the full amount if you're under 59½, which would be $500 in your case. The bank's withholding estimate typically doesn't include penalties - just income tax withholding. So your total tax burden could be the withholding amount PLUS the $500 penalty, assuming no exceptions apply to your situation. I'd recommend asking your 403(b) administrator for a breakdown of your account balance showing contributions vs. earnings so you can calculate this more precisely.
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Felix Grigori
•This is really helpful, Oliver! I think you're right about the bank's estimate. I never thought about them only withholding on the earnings portion. That makes way more sense than what I was initially thinking. Do you know if the 403(b) administrator is required to provide that contribution vs. earnings breakdown, or is it something I'd have to specifically request? I've been looking at my quarterly statements but they don't seem to break it down clearly. Also, would this breakdown be something I'd need for my tax filing, or is it just for my own planning purposes? Thanks for clarifying about the penalty not being included in withholding - that's definitely something I need to factor into my decision!
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Rajiv Kumar
Great question about the breakdown! Your 403(b) administrator is required to track your contribution basis for tax purposes, but they're not necessarily required to show it clearly on regular statements. You'll definitely want to request this information specifically - call them and ask for a "contribution basis report" or "cost basis breakdown." When you actually take the withdrawal, they'll provide you with a 1099-R form that shows the total distribution and should indicate how much is taxable vs. non-taxable. However, getting this breakdown beforehand helps you plan better. You'll need this information for tax filing purposes if any portion of your withdrawal includes earnings. The 1099-R will report the distribution to the IRS, and you'll use that to complete Form 8606 (if needed) to properly report the tax-free vs. taxable portions on your tax return. Pro tip: Some administrators can provide this over the phone, while others might require a written request. If you're planning the withdrawal soon, I'd start this process now since it can sometimes take a few days to get the detailed breakdown.
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