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Understanding the Additional Tax on IRA Early Distribution?

I'm trying to figure out something about withdrawing from my Traditional IRA early. So I'm planning to take out just a portion of my account (not the whole thing), and I know there are taxes involved. When I set up the withdrawal, there's an option to have Federal and state tax withheld immediately (somewhere between 10-20%). What I can't figure out is - does this withholding cover all the taxes I'll owe? Or will I have to pay ANOTHER 10-20% when I file my taxes next spring for the 2024 year? I'm trying to budget properly and don't want to get hit with a surprise tax bill that's double what I expected. Anyone have experience with early IRA withdrawals and how the taxation works?

The withholding you select now (10-20%) is just an estimated payment toward what you'll ultimately owe - it's not the full tax picture. Here's what you need to know: When you take an early distribution from a Traditional IRA, you'll actually face two different types of taxation. First, the withdrawal is considered ordinary income, so you'll pay your regular income tax rate on that amount (which could be 10%, 12%, 22%, etc. depending on your tax bracket). The withholding you select now goes toward covering this income tax portion. Second, if you're under 59½ and don't qualify for an exception, you'll also owe an additional 10% early withdrawal penalty tax. This penalty is separate from your regular income tax and is often not included in the withholding options. When you file your taxes next spring, you'll reconcile everything. The amount that was already withheld will be credited to you, so you won't be "double taxed" on that portion. But you may owe additional taxes depending on your total income, whether the withholding was enough, and whether the 10% penalty applies.

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Thanks for this! So just to make sure I understand - if I have them withhold 15% now, when I file my taxes I might still owe more depending on my tax bracket? And the 10% penalty is completely separate from the withholding choice?

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That's exactly right. The withholding is just an estimate of your regular income tax - it's like having taxes taken out of a paycheck. When you file your return, if your actual tax rate is higher than what was withheld, you'll owe the difference. If it's lower, you'd get a refund for that portion. And yes, the 10% early withdrawal penalty is completely separate. So if you withdraw $10,000 early, you could choose to have 15% ($1,500) withheld for income taxes. But when you file, you'll also calculate the 10% penalty ($1,000) plus any additional regular income tax based on your tax bracket. The withholding just gives the IRS some money upfront rather than waiting for all of it at tax time.

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Does this tool also help determine if you qualify for any of the exceptions to the 10% penalty? I'm looking at taking a distribution for first-time home purchase and I've heard there might be an exception for that.

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I'm a bit skeptical. Does it actually give tax advice or just do calculations? Because IRA distribution rules can get complicated depending on your situation. And how accurate is it compared to what you actually ended up owing?

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Yes, it actually walks through all the possible exceptions to the 10% penalty, including the first-time homebuyer exception which allows up to $10,000 penalty-free for a first home purchase. It asks specific questions to determine if you qualify and shows you what documentation you'll need to prove it on your tax return. It's definitely more than just a calculator. It analyzes your specific situation based on your inputs and documents. In my case, it was spot-on accurate - the amount it projected I would owe matched exactly what ended up on my tax return. It also flagged that I might qualify for the medical expense exception for part of my withdrawal since I had some large unreimbursed medical bills that year.

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Don't forget about state taxes too! Everyone's talking about federal, but depending on your state, you might owe additional state penalties for early withdrawals. Here in California, they hit you with an additional 2.5% state penalty on top of the federal 10%. So frustrating!!!

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Is that true for all states? I'm in Texas and thought we didn't have state income tax so maybe I'd avoid that part at least?

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You're in luck with Texas! States without income tax (like Texas, Florida, Nevada, etc.) don't have additional early withdrawal penalties since they don't tax retirement distributions in the first place. For others, it varies widely by state. California has the 2.5% penalty I mentioned. Other states like New York and Massachusetts follow the federal rules. Some states have penalties but offer different exceptions than federal. That's actually another thing to check - sometimes you can qualify for a state exception even if you don't qualify for the federal one.

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Has anyone used TurboTax to report an early IRA distribution? Does it walk you through the penalty exceptions properly or should I pay for a tax professional this year?

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Mei Liu

I used TurboTax last year for my early withdrawal. It does ask you questions about potential exceptions, but I found the questions a bit confusing. It worked fine for my simple situation (I didn't qualify for exceptions), but if you think you might qualify for an exception, it might be worth at least consulting with a professional.

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Great question! I went through this exact situation last year and learned the hard way that the withholding is just a prepayment, not the final amount you'll owe. Here's what happened to me: I withdrew $15,000 from my Traditional IRA and had 20% withheld ($3,000). When I filed my taxes, I ended up owing an additional $2,200 because: - The withdrawal pushed me into a higher tax bracket, so my actual tax rate on that income was 24% instead of the 20% I had withheld - I owed the full 10% early withdrawal penalty ($1,500) since I didn't qualify for any exceptions - Total taxes owed: $5,100, but I'd only prepaid $3,000 My advice: Calculate your estimated tax bracket for the year INCLUDING the IRA withdrawal, then have at least that percentage withheld for income taxes. Remember the 10% penalty is completely separate and won't be covered by withholding, so set aside that money too. It's better to overwithhold and get a refund than to owe a big chunk at tax time!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world example I needed to see! Your situation really highlights how the withholding can fall short. I'm planning to withdraw $20,000 and was thinking 15% withholding would be enough, but now I'm realizing I need to factor in how this will affect my overall tax bracket for the year. Did you end up having to pay any underpayment penalties on top of everything else, or was the $3,000 you had withheld enough to avoid that?

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