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Dylan Cooper

How are Withdrawals from Rollover IRA and HSA taxed for non-resident aliens? Tax implications explained

I recently converted my 401K balance into a Rollover IRA account, which I believe is essentially the same as a Traditional IRA. I also have an HSA account that I've been maintaining. My situation is a bit complicated - I'm a non-resident alien who hasn't stepped foot in the US for any days this year. I'm trying to figure out the tax implications if I decide to withdraw from both these accounts before reaching age 59.5. I've been researching online but keep getting mixed information. Some sources claim that IRA withdrawals aren't considered effectively connected income (ECI) for non-residents, so they wouldn't be taxed at the graduated US income tax rates. Instead, they say it would be taxed as FDAP income at a flat 30% rate (plus the additional 10% early withdrawal penalty). I'm really confused about whether withdrawals from my IRA and HSA accounts will be treated as FDAP or ECI for non-resident aliens like myself. The difference in tax treatment is substantial, and I need to understand this before making any decisions. Does anyone have clear information on this specific situation?

Sofia Morales

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The tax treatment of IRA and HSA withdrawals for non-resident aliens can definitely be confusing. Let me help clarify this for you. For your Rollover IRA (which is indeed treated the same as a Traditional IRA), withdrawals by non-resident aliens are typically considered Fixed, Determinable, Annual, or Periodical (FDAP) income, not Effectively Connected Income (ECI). This means they're generally subject to a 30% flat withholding rate, unless modified by a tax treaty between the US and your country of residence. This is in addition to the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59.5 years old. For your HSA, the rules are a bit different. Non-qualified distributions (those not used for medical expenses) are subject to income tax plus a 20% penalty if you're under 65. For non-resident aliens, this would also typically fall under FDAP income with the 30% withholding. One important note: if you maintained these accounts while you were a US resident and are now withdrawing as a non-resident, the classification might be affected by the timing and your specific circumstances.

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Dylan Cooper

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. Do you know if there are any specific tax treaties that might reduce that 30% rate? I'm a citizen of India if that helps. Also, does it make any difference that I contributed to these accounts while I was on an H1B visa (I was a resident alien for tax purposes at that time)?

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Sofia Morales

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The US does have a tax treaty with India that might provide some relief. Under Article 20 of the US-India tax treaty, pensions and similar remuneration may be eligible for reduced withholding rates, potentially as low as 15% in some cases, though the specifics depend on how your IRA withdrawal is classified under the treaty. Yes, it does make a difference that you contributed while you were a resident alien for tax purposes. In some cases, the IRS may look at the proportional time you were a resident vs. non-resident and apply different tax treatments to those portions of your distribution. This gets quite complex, and the specific rules would depend on how long you held resident status and when contributions were made.

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StarSailor

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I went through a similar situation last year when I moved back to my home country. I was getting nowhere with online research and kept running into contradictory information about FDAP vs. ECI treatment for my retirement accounts. I finally used https://taxr.ai to analyze my specific situation - they reviewed all my account documents and tax history, then gave me a clear breakdown of exactly how my distributions would be taxed. Their analysis showed me that some of my IRA funds were actually eligible for treaty benefits I hadn't known about, which reduced my tax rate from 30% to 15% on a significant portion. They also pointed out that the tax treatment varied based on which contributions were made during my resident vs. non-resident periods, which wasn't obvious from any of the generic advice I found online.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Did they help with the actual withdrawal process too? I'm in a similar situation but my financial institution seems confused about how to handle the withholding for a non-resident alien.

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Ava Garcia

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How long did it take them to analyze your situation? I've got a pressing need to access some funds from my HSA within the next month, and I'm trying to figure out if I have time to get proper advice.

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StarSailor

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They don't directly handle the withdrawal process, but they provided me with specific instructions that I could give to my financial institution. The documentation they prepared actually helped convince my bank's international tax department to apply the treaty rate correctly, when initially they were just going to default to the full 30% withholding. It took about 3-4 days to get my full analysis after I uploaded my documents. They were pretty efficient considering the complexity of cross-border retirement account distributions. For an HSA withdrawal with a tight timeline, they should definitely be able to help within your one-month window.

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Ava Garcia

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Miguel Silva

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is Form 8854 (Expatriation Statement). If you were a long-term resident before becoming a non-resident alien, you might be considered a "covered expatriate" which can trigger additional tax consequences for retirement account withdrawals. Worth looking into if you had a green card for many years.

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Dylan Cooper

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I was only on H1B, never had a green card, so I think I don't fall into the covered expatriate category. But that's an important point for others in similar situations who might have different visa histories.

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Yara Nassar

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Has anyone actually gone through the process of claiming a refund for overwithholding on IRA distributions as a non-resident? My financial institution just automatically withheld 30% despite me providing a W-8BEN, and now they're saying I need to claim it back from the IRS directly.

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Yes, you'll need to file Form 1040NR (U.S. Nonresident Alien Income Tax Return) to claim back any overwithholding. Be sure to attach a copy of your W-8BEN and a statement explaining why the reduced treaty rate should apply. I did this last year and got my refund after about 6 months.

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Yara Nassar

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Thanks for the info! 6 months is a long time but better than nothing I guess. Did you have to provide any additional documentation beyond the W-8BEN and statement?

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Ruby Knight

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Just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through IRA withdrawals as a non-resident alien last year. The key thing I learned is that timing matters a lot - if you contributed to your IRA while you were a US tax resident (which sounds like your case with the H1B), those contributions may be treated differently than if you had contributed as a non-resident. I'd strongly recommend getting professional help for your specific situation. The treaty benefits with India can be significant, but the application process is tricky. My financial institution initially applied the full 30% withholding even though I was entitled to the reduced treaty rate. I had to file Form 1040NR to get the overwithholding back, which took about 8 months. One important tip: make sure to file your W-8BEN with your IRA custodian BEFORE you make any withdrawals. Even if they mess up the withholding initially, having it on file helps establish your treaty claim later. Also, keep detailed records of when you made each contribution and your tax residency status at those times - the IRS may ask for this information. For HSA withdrawals, the rules are even more complex because of the medical expense qualification requirements. You'll want to be very careful about documentation there.

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This is really helpful information, especially about the timing of contributions and tax residency status. I'm curious about the W-8BEN filing process - did you submit it directly to your IRA custodian, or did you have to go through their international department? I'm worried my custodian might not be familiar with the India treaty provisions and could still apply the wrong withholding rate even with the form on file. Also, regarding the HSA medical expense documentation - do you know if expenses incurred while living abroad (but still qualifying medical expenses under US rules) are acceptable? I have some medical bills from my home country that I'm wondering if I can use to justify qualified distributions.

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