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Amina Sy

How to Fill Out Request for Abatement Form 843 for Late Filing?

So frustrated right now. My husband and I just found out that the IRS is saying they never received our tax extension that our tax preparer supposedly filed. She sent us a screenshot from her tax software claiming she submitted everything by the due date, but honestly, I don't fully trust that the screenshot is legit. This woman has been nothing but problems from day one (whole other story). We're now facing late filing penalties and I'm trying to figure out how to complete a Request for Abatement Form 843 to get these penalties removed. Has anyone gone through this process before? What documentation would we need to include with Form 843 to prove that our preparer actually submitted the extension on time? Should we include the screenshot she sent us even though I'm not convinced it's real? Also, if we do have to pay these penalties, is there any way to hold our incompetent tax preparer responsible since it was her job to file the extension correctly? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

This is a frustrating situation, but you've got options! Form 843 is exactly what you need to request an abatement of penalties. Here's how to approach this: First, gather all documentation showing your tax preparer was instructed to file the extension. Include any emails, texts, or contracts showing this was her responsibility. The screenshot from her software is worth including, even if you're unsure about its legitimacy - let the IRS evaluate it. On Form 843, make sure to check Box 4a for "Reasonable cause..." In the explanation section (Part II), clearly state that you hired a professional preparer who confirmed she filed the extension by the deadline. Explain that you acted in good faith by hiring a professional and reasonably believed your extension was properly filed. Also consider requesting a tax transcript through the IRS website or by filing Form 4506-T. This might show if any extension was actually received, which could strengthen your case one way or the other.

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Thanks for the info! Just wondering - do you know if there's a time limit for filing Form 843? We just found out about this last week. Also, if the IRS rejects our request, can we appeal?

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The time limit for Form 843 is generally two years from the date you paid the tax or three years from when you filed the return, whichever is later. So you likely have plenty of time to submit your request. Yes, if the IRS rejects your abatement request, you can absolutely appeal their decision. You'd receive a letter explaining your appeal rights and the process to follow. Usually this involves submitting a written protest within 30 days.

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Just FYI - you might be able to get First Time Penalty Abatement without going through the whole Form 843 process if you have a clean compliance history. My wife and I had a similar situation, and I just called the IRS and requested "first time abatement" and they approved it on the spot. Worth asking about!

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Omar Farouk

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How do you know if you qualify for that first time abatement thing? We've never had issues before but always filed on time until this year. Does having a tax preparer mess up still qualify?

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You generally qualify if you haven't had any significant penalties in the past three tax years and have filed all required returns (or filed valid extensions) and paid or arranged to pay any tax due. The fact that your tax preparer was the one who messed up doesn't disqualify you. It's actually one of the easiest ways to get penalties removed if you qualify. The IRS doesn't advertise it much, but it's an administrative waiver they can apply without you having to prove reasonable cause. Definitely worth asking about before going through the more complex Form 843 process.

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CosmicCadet

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Don't forget that you can (and should) file a complaint against your tax preparer! If they're a CPA, you can file with your state's board of accountancy. If they're an Enrolled Agent, file with the IRS Office of Professional Responsibility. And definitely leave reviews online so others don't get stuck with them.

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Chloe Harris

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You should also ask the preparer to cover the penalties since it was their mistake! I had a similar issue and my preparer ended up reimbursing me for the penalties. Most have insurance for exactly this kind of error.

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CosmicCadet

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Absolutely! Professional tax preparers typically carry errors and omissions insurance specifically for these situations. When you contact them about covering the penalties, do it in writing and be very specific about the error they made. If they refuse to cover the costs, mention that you'll be filing formal complaints with the appropriate licensing bodies. That usually gets their attention quickly. Keep all documentation of their mistake as evidence, including that screenshot they sent you.

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Liam Cortez

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I went through this exact same nightmare last year! My tax preparer claimed she filed my extension but the IRS had no record of it. Here's what worked for me: 1. **Get everything in writing from your preparer** - Ask for a detailed timeline of when she claims to have filed, what confirmation she received, and any reference numbers. That screenshot might be helpful even if you doubt it. 2. **Request your IRS transcript immediately** - File Form 4506-T or get it online through IRS.gov. This will show exactly what the IRS has on file for you and can definitively prove whether an extension was filed or not. 3. **For Form 843, focus on reasonable cause** - In Part II, emphasize that you hired a licensed professional specifically to handle this filing requirement and reasonably relied on their expertise. Include copies of your contract/agreement showing you paid them to file the extension. 4. **Document your good faith effort** - Include evidence that you provided all necessary information to your preparer well before the deadline and that filing the extension was explicitly part of their service. The IRS is generally sympathetic when taxpayers can show they made good faith efforts to comply by hiring professionals. Just make sure your Form 843 tells a clear story of reasonable reliance on professional advice. Also, definitely pursue getting reimbursed by your preparer - most carry professional liability insurance for exactly these situations!

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This is such helpful advice, thank you! I'm definitely going to request that IRS transcript first thing tomorrow - that's something I hadn't even thought of but it makes total sense to get the official record of what they actually have on file. The point about documenting our good faith effort is really important too. We actually have emails showing we gave our preparer all our documents back in February, well before the deadline, and her service agreement does specifically mention filing extensions when needed. I'm feeling much more confident about tackling this Form 843 now. Did you have any trouble getting your preparer to reimburse you for the penalties, or did they cooperate once you mentioned their professional liability insurance?

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Marcelle Drum

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this - tax preparer mistakes are incredibly frustrating! I went through something similar a few years ago and learned some hard lessons. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given: when you're preparing your Form 843, make sure to include a timeline of events in your reasonable cause explanation. Show exactly when you hired the preparer, when you provided all necessary documents, when the extension was supposed to be filed, and when you first discovered the problem. The IRS likes to see that you acted promptly once you became aware of the issue. Since you just found out about this last week, make sure to emphasize that you're filing the abatement request immediately upon discovering the problem. Also, if your preparer is enrolled with the IRS (has a PTIN number), you can look up their credentials on the IRS directory. This can be useful documentation to include showing that you reasonably relied on a properly credentialed professional. One last tip - if your Form 843 gets denied initially, don't give up! You can request a supervisory review or file an appeal. Sometimes it just takes getting in front of the right person who understands the situation better. Good luck with this mess - I hope you get it resolved quickly!

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