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Eli Butler

How to Calculate AMTI with Both W2 and Self-Employment Income?

I've been trying to figure out the Alternative Minimum Tax situation for this year and I'm a bit confused. I know the formula for calculating Alternative Minimum Tax Income (AMTI) when you only have W2 income - you take your pretax salary plus total spread and then subtract the AMT exemption for the year. But this year I started a side business, so I have some 1099 income in addition to my regular employment. How do you properly calculate AMTI when you have both W2 wages and self-employment income? Do I just add my 1099 earnings to the total, or are there other adjustments I need to make for the self-employment portion? Also, I want to confirm that the 26% or 28% tax rate used for calculating the Tentative Minimum Tax (TMT) is applied to the entire AMTI amount? Or does it work differently when you have mixed income sources? Thanks for any help! This AMT stuff always makes my head spin.

The AMT calculation does get more complex when you add self-employment income, but I can walk you through it. For calculating AMTI with both W2 and self-employment income, you basically start with your regular taxable income (including both income sources) and then apply the AMT adjustments. Here's a simplified approach: 1. Start with your regular taxable income (W2 wages + self-employment profit after expenses) 2. Add back certain deductions that aren't allowed for AMT (like state/local taxes) 3. Apply AMT-specific adjustments (depreciation differences, etc.) 4. Subtract your AMT exemption (which may be reduced if your income is high enough) The 26% rate applies to AMTI up to $199,900 for 2025 (if married filing jointly), and the 28% rate applies to AMTI above that threshold. And yes, this rate applies to your total AMTI, not just certain portions of it. The tricky part with self-employment income is that some business deductions might be treated differently under AMT rules than under regular tax rules.

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Lydia Bailey

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Thanks for explaining! So for the self-employment part, are there specific deductions that are commonly disallowed under AMT that I should watch out for? I have a consulting business and take home office deductions among other things.

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For self-employment deductions under AMT, you'll need to watch out for depreciation differences - the AMT often requires longer recovery periods and different depreciation methods than regular tax rules. Home office deductions are generally treated the same for both regular tax and AMT, but certain business-related miscellaneous itemized deductions might be disallowed for AMT. Also, if you're using certain tax credits related to your business, some of these might trigger AMT adjustments.

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Something important to remember about AMT and self-employment income: the self-employment tax deduction (the employer portion of FICA taxes) doesn't get added back for AMT purposes. This is one adjustment that actually works in your favor! Also, if you're using Section 179 expensing for business equipment, be aware that AMT might require you to depreciate those assets over a longer period, which affects your AMTI calculation.

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Eli Butler

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Thank you for mentioning this! I had completely forgotten about how the self-employment tax deduction is treated. Does the same apply for health insurance deductions for self-employed individuals? Is that also treated the same under both regular tax and AMT?

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The self-employed health insurance deduction is generally treated the same way for both regular income tax and AMT calculations, so you don't need to make an adjustment there. For itemized medical expenses, remember that under regular tax rules for 2025, you can deduct medical expenses that exceed 7.5% of your AGI, but under AMT rules, you can only deduct expenses exceeding 10% of your AGI - that's an adjustment that can sometimes trigger AMT for people with high medical expenses.

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Kolton Murphy

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Speaking from experience, don't forget to check if you qualify for the AMT exemption phaseout with your combined income. When I added my side hustle to my W2 job last year, it pushed me into the phaseout range which really screwed up my calculations. For 2025, the exemption begins phasing out at $1,079,800 for married filing jointly and $539,900 for single filers. The exemption reduces by 25 cents for each dollar of AMTI above these thresholds.

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Evelyn Rivera

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Is there a simplified way to estimate if you'll be hit by AMT when you have self-employment income? I'm trying to do some tax planning for next year and want to avoid surprises.

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