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CosmicVoyager

How does the Cohan Rule apply to revenue estimation for cash-based businesses?

I run a small cash-based business (food truck) and I'm trying to figure out how to properly report my revenue for taxes. I've heard about the Cohan Rule for estimating expenses when you don't have perfect records, but does this same rule apply to estimating revenue too? I'm genuinely trying to report accurately (not like some cash businesses I know that underreport). The problem is I don't always get receipts for every transaction - sometimes it's just too busy to record everything properly. If the Cohan Rule does allow revenue estimates, how does the IRS verify those numbers? Are there specific procedures they follow? I really want to stay compliant but also not overpay if I don't have to. Any insights would be appreciated!

Ravi Kapoor

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The Cohan Rule (based on a 1930 court case involving entertainer George M. Cohan) primarily applies to the estimation of business expenses, not revenue. For revenue reporting, the IRS expects much more stringent documentation and record-keeping. Cash-based businesses are actually required to maintain adequate records of all income. While the Cohan Rule might give you some flexibility with certain expenses if you have partial documentation, the same leniency typically doesn't extend to revenue. The IRS expects you to track and report all income, and they have methods to reconstruct your income if they believe you're underreporting. For your food truck situation, I'd recommend implementing a point-of-sale system that automatically tracks sales, even during busy periods. If that's not feasible, maintaining daily sales logs, bank deposit records, and inventory usage records can help substantiate your reported revenue. These methods create documentation that shows the flow of money through your business.

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Freya Nielsen

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So what happens if a cash business legitimately loses some sales records? Like if my register tape gets damaged or something? Am I just completely screwed if I get audited?

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Ravi Kapoor

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If you accidentally lose some sales records, you should document that loss immediately and reconstruct those records to the best of your ability using whatever information you have. This might include bank deposits, inventory depletion records, appointment books, or other business records that indirectly reflect your sales activity during that period. The IRS understands that occasional record-keeping mishaps happen, but they expect you to make a good faith effort to accurately report your income. If you're audited, having documentation of why records are missing and showing your method of reconstruction will help demonstrate you weren't intentionally hiding income.

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Zara Khan

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Former revenue agent here. While the Cohan Rule technically applies only to expenses, there is a practical reality to how we handle cash business revenue audits. We do understand that perfect documentation isn't always possible, but we expect to see a systematic approach to revenue tracking. For a food truck, we would typically look at: - Food/supply purchases and typical markup rates - Register Z-tapes or POS system reports - Bank deposits (recognizing some cash might be used for immediate expenses) - Industry standards for similar businesses The key difference between expense and revenue estimation is burden of proof. With expenses, some estimation is permitted under Cohan. With revenue, the burden is higher, but we don't expect the impossible either.

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CosmicVoyager

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Thank you! This is super helpful. For my food truck, would keeping a daily sales journal (even just handwritten) alongside my inventory purchases be considered a "systematic approach" if I can't afford a fancy POS system yet?

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Zara Khan

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Yes, a consistently maintained daily sales journal would definitely qualify as a systematic approach, especially when backed up by inventory purchase records. The key is consistency and reasonableness. Make sure your daily logs show total sales, and ideally break it down by broad categories if applicable (food vs. drinks, etc.). Even a simple spreadsheet updated daily is fine. What raises red flags in audits is when there's no system at all, or when reported income doesn't align with the lifestyle or business volume we observe.

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Luca Ferrari

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Has anyone tried using those industry standard guides for restaurants/food service to back up their revenue claims? I've heard IRS sometimes uses those to estimate what your business "should" be making based on location, type, etc.

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Nia Davis

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I used the National Restaurant Association's industry reports during an audit of my small cafe. The IRS agent was familiar with them and it actually helped me show that my reported revenue was in line with industry averages for my type of business in my area. They still wanted to see my actual records, but having that benchmark data definitely helped establish that my numbers were reasonable.

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