How does TurboTax calculate my effective tax rate? Seems wrong

I'm confused about how TurboTax is showing my effective tax rate. Shouldn't the tax rate just be (Taxes Paid)/(Taxable Income)? I'm looking at my return summary and the way TurboTax calculates it seems off to me. The refund amount shouldn't be factored into this calculation, right? That's just money I overpaid through withholding throughout the year. For example, in the summary screen, it shows my tax rate as something like 8.7% but when I do the math myself using ([Other taxes + Tax] - [Total credits])/[Taxable Income], I get 11.5%. Am I missing something here? Does TurboTax use some different formula for effective tax rate that I'm not aware of? I know it's not a huge deal but I like to understand exactly what I'm paying and why.

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Oliver Weber

TurboTax calculates your effective tax rate using your total tax liability divided by your total income (not just taxable income). That's why the percentage looks different from what you're calculating. When you calculate (Taxes Paid)/(Taxable Income), you're actually looking at your tax bracket rate, not your effective rate. The effective rate considers your total income before deductions, giving you a better picture of what percentage of your overall income goes to taxes. For a simple example: If you earned $80,000, had $15,000 in deductions (making taxable income $65,000), and paid $7,500 in taxes, TurboTax would calculate your effective rate as $7,500/$80,000 = 9.4%, not $7,500/$65,000 = 11.5%.

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Oliver Weber

You're right that you're not being taxed on deducted income, but the effective tax rate is meant to show the "real world" percentage of your total earnings that went to taxes. The purpose of showing this lower percentage is to reflect the benefit of tax deductions and credits. It helps you see how much of your actual total income ended up going to taxes after all the tax breaks you received. For most financial planning purposes, this gives you a more practical view of your tax burden relative to what you actually earned.

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Natasha Romanova

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Javier Gomez

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Isabella Oliveira

I don't think TurboTax has a detailed formula explanation anywhere - that was my frustration too. On the tax summary page, try clicking the "+" symbol next to each category to expand it. You'll see a breakdown of what's included in each total. For self-employment, even a small amount can make a big difference in your effective rate calculation because you're paying both the employer and employee portions of FICA taxes on that income. If you expand the "Other Taxes" section, you should see the SE tax listed separately.

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Romeo Barrett

I had this exact same confusion last year! What helped me understand it was looking at the actual Form 1040 line numbers that TurboTax uses. Your effective tax rate in TurboTax is calculated as: (Line 24 - Line 19) / Line 11, where Line 24 is your total tax, Line 19 is your total credits, and Line 11 is your adjusted gross income (AGI). This is different from using taxable income because it shows what percentage of your total earnings (before standard/itemized deductions) actually went to taxes. The reason TurboTax uses AGI instead of taxable income is that it gives you a more realistic picture of your overall tax burden. If you want to see the rate based on taxable income (which is what you're calculating), you'd need to use Line 15 as your denominator instead. Both calculations are valid - they just answer different questions. TurboTax's method shows "what percent of my total income went to taxes" while your method shows "what percent tax rate I paid on income that was actually subject to tax.

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