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Savanna Franklin

Help with Understanding Federal Tax Return Calculation from TurboTax

I'm so frustrated trying to get through to the IRS but can never reach a real person. My issue seems too basic to pay a CPA for, but I'm completely stuck. Here's my situation - I filed using TurboTax (already got the acceptance confirmation) and was originally supposed to get about $1.8K for my Federal refund. When I look at my 1040 form, the math breaks down like this: Federal calculated tax owed is **about $37.5K** minus: - My W-2 withholding of approximately $36.7K - Plus an additional $2.6K of estimated tax payments I made So according to my calculations, I should be getting back around $1.8K, but the final number on my return shows something completely different. I'm so confused about where the discrepancy is coming from. Has anyone dealt with this type of situation before? Do I need to file an amendment or is there something obvious I'm missing?

It sounds like you might be overlooking some adjustments or credits that could be affecting your refund calculation. The math you're describing (tax owed minus withholding minus estimated payments) should equal your refund, but TurboTax might be applying additional factors. Check your complete 1040 form for any adjustments to income, additional taxes (like self-employment tax), or credits that might be affecting the calculation. Look at lines 10-24 for adjustments, line 24 for total deductions, and Schedule 2 for any additional taxes. Also review Schedule 3 for nonrefundable credits that could reduce your tax liability. If there's still a discrepancy, I'd suggest going through the TurboTax summary page where it breaks down exactly how your refund was calculated. They usually provide a detailed explanation of each component.

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Thanks for the detailed response! I'm wondering if maybe the Recovery Rebate Credit could be affecting things? I received a stimulus payment last year but can't remember if I reported it correctly in TurboTax. Would that make a big difference in the refund amount?

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The Recovery Rebate Credit wouldn't affect your 2025 filing (for 2024 taxes) since there haven't been stimulus payments recently. That was relevant for previous tax years. What's more likely is that you might have overlooked other income reported to the IRS (like investment income or 1099s), or there could be adjustments for health insurance premium tax credits, retirement contributions, or education credits. Also check if you have any prior year tax debts that might be reducing your refund through offset.

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Another thing to check is if you filled out any of the worksheets incorrectly in TurboTax. I had a similar issue last year where my expected refund was way off, and it turned out I made a mistake on the qualified business income deduction worksheet that threw everything off. Also, double-check that all your W-2 information was entered correctly. Even a small transposition error in one box can significantly affect your tax calculation. Look at your actual W-2 forms against what's in the final TurboTax forms.

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I think you might be onto something about the worksheets. I went back through my TurboTax account and noticed that there's an "Explain This" button next to the final refund calculation that I hadn't clicked before. When I did, it showed some worksheet calculations for retirement savings contributions that might be affecting things. How do I know if these calculations are correct though?

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The "Explain This" feature in TurboTax is definitely helpful for understanding the calculations. To verify if the retirement contribution calculations are correct, compare the numbers with your actual contribution statements from your retirement account provider. For retirement savings contributions specifically, check if TurboTax correctly applied the Retirement Savings Contribution Credit (Saver's Credit) if you're eligible. This credit can be up to $1,000 ($2,000 if married filing jointly) depending on your income level and contribution amount. Also verify that any deductible IRA contributions were properly accounted for on Schedule 1. Sometimes TurboTax might miscalculate if you have both traditional and Roth contributions.

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Has anybody had issues with TurboTax miscalculating the Child Tax Credit? My sister had a similar problem where her refund was way off because TurboTax wasn't correctly applying the full child tax credit she was eligible for.

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Yes! This happened to me this year! TurboTax didn't automatically apply the full Child Tax Credit amount for my qualifying children because I had answered a question about custody arrangements incorrectly. Had to go back and fix it manually and my refund jumped by $1,400.

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