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Help with Form 8615 on TurboTax for first-time filer

Hey everyone, I'm really confused about filing my taxes for the first time and could use some guidance. I'm using TurboTax and it's asking me to fill out Form 8615, but I'm not sure why. Some background about me: - Just turned 20 a few weeks ago - Started my first job at a local café back in July - Currently in college but only taking 3 classes this semester (not full-time status since you need 4 courses for that at my school). I can only handle 3 classes because I'm juggling work and school. - I've received some merit scholarships for my academics I've been working on my return for the past couple days (finished entering my W-2 and 1098-T info) and right when I thought I was done, TurboTax is asking for this Form 8615. I'm confused because I thought my parents can't claim me as a dependent anymore since I'm not a full-time student. Can someone explain why I might need this form and what to do? Really appreciate any help!

Form 8615 is known as the "Kiddie Tax" form, and TurboTax is prompting you for it because of your age and student status. This form is typically used when a child has unearned income (like interest, dividends, capital gains, or scholarship money that isn't used for qualified education expenses) above a certain threshold. The confusion might be between dependency status and the kiddie tax rules. They're related but separate issues. Even if your parents can't claim you as a dependent, you might still fall under the kiddie tax rules if: 1. You're under 24 and a student 2. You have unearned income above the threshold (about $2,300) 3. You don't provide more than half of your own support from earned income Based on what you shared, your scholarship money might be what's triggering this. Not all scholarship money is taxable, but amounts used for non-qualified expenses (like room and board) can be considered unearned income.

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Thanks for explaining! That's interesting because my scholarship mostly covers tuition and books, which I thought weren't taxable. Do you think TurboTax might be confused because I entered my 1098-T with scholarship info? Also, I'm pretty sure I provide more than half my own support through my job. Would that exempt me from needing this form?

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Scholarships used for qualified expenses like tuition and books are typically tax-free, so if that's how your scholarship was used, it shouldn't trigger the kiddie tax. TurboTax might be triggering the form based on your age and student status, without yet knowing if you provide more than half your support. If you do provide more than half your own support from your earned income (your job), then you likely don't need Form 8615. When TurboTax asks questions related to this form, make sure you accurately answer the question about providing more than half your support. The program should then determine you don't need the form and move past that section.

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Another thing to consider is whether you fall under the Self-Support Exception for the Kiddie Tax. I ran into this exact issue with Form 8615 on TurboTax last year. The key is that if your earned income (from your W-2 job) provides more than half of your support, you're exempt from the kiddie tax rules even if you're under 24 and a student. Support includes your housing, food, clothing, education expenses, medical costs, etc. So calculate: does your café job income cover more than 50% of all your living expenses for the year? If yes, then you should be able to avoid Form 8615 entirely. Make sure you answer this question correctly when TurboTax asks!

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Does financial aid count as support? I have loans in my name that help pay for school and living expenses. Would those count as "my support" or not? The whole support test thing is super confusing.

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Student loans in your name generally count as YOUR support (not your parents'), even though you're not repaying them yet. This is because you're the one legally obligated to repay them. Grants and scholarships are trickier. If they're used for qualified education expenses (tuition, books, required fees), they're not considered anyone's support. But if they're used for living expenses (room and board), they generally count as support that you provide for yourself. It is confusing! That's why it's important to calculate all sources of support carefully and determine who provided the majority of your total support for the year.

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Has anyone else noticed that TurboTax sometimes asks for forms you don't actually need? Last year it had me fill out some crypto tax form even though I had zero crypto transactions. After talking with a tax professional, I learned you can sometimes override these prompts.

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Yes! TurboTax is super annoying with that. I found that sometimes if you go back and review your answers to previous questions, you might find something you answered wrong that's triggering unnecessary forms. Double-check your answers about dependency status and support.

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That's a good tip! I'll look back through my answers again. I'm wondering if I misunderstood something about the scholarship questions, since that seems to be what might be triggering this Form 8615 requirement.

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