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Natasha Petrova

Do I need to file Form 8615 with unearned income from scholarships as an independent student?

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a tax pickle and could use some advice. First time handling taxes on my own and I'm confused about some forms. My situation: - I'm 23, full-time student with about $23k in taxable scholarships that covered my dorm and meal plan - My parents are alive but I'm filing as independent - Only earned about $5.5k from some freelance work (got a 1099-NEC) - I have a small investment account but no realized gains this year My main question: Do I need to fill out Form 8615 (Tax for Certain Children Who Have Unearned Income)? When I was playing around with the tax software and tried adding this form, it didn't change my refund amount at all. My previous tax preparer never included this form last year, but honestly I don't fully trust her work since she completely left out my taxable scholarship income (yikes!). What happens if I'm supposed to file Form 8615 but don't? Is this something the IRS takes super seriously, or would they just make me pay whatever difference there might be? Also, I'm worried I might have screwed up somewhere between reporting my 1098-T and claiming the American Opportunity Tax Credit. I promise I wasn't trying to fudge anything - just did my best with the confusing forms. If I accidentally entered something wrong, will I get in huge trouble or just have to pay back any difference? Thanks for any help!

Form 8615 is specifically for children under 19 (or under 24 if a full-time student) who have unearned income AND can be claimed as a dependent on someone else's return. The key part here is the dependency status. Since you're filing as independent (meaning nobody can claim you as a dependent), you don't need to worry about Form 8615 at all. That form is designed to prevent parents from shifting investment income to their dependent children to pay lower tax rates. For your scholarship income, you'll need to report the portion used for room and board (not tuition and books) as income on your return. This is considered taxable income, but it's not the type of "unearned income" that Form 8615 addresses. Form 8615 is more concerned with things like interest, dividends, and capital gains. Regarding the American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC), definitely double-check your calculations. The IRS does flag returns with education credit issues, but if you made an honest mistake, the worst that would happen is they'd send you a notice, possibly adjust your refund/balance, and maybe charge interest on any underpayment. They're not going to come after you for honest mistakes - that's very different from deliberate fraud.

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Thanks for the clear explanation! I'm also a student with scholarship income. Just to double check - if I'm 22 but my parents DO claim me as a dependent, and I have $10k in taxable scholarship for housing, would I need to fill out Form 8615 in that case?

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No, you still wouldn't need Form 8615 in that situation. While you're under 24 and claimed as a dependent, the scholarship income used for housing doesn't fall under the definition of "unearned income" for purposes of Form 8615. Taxable scholarships are actually considered earned income for most tax purposes, even though they're not compensation for services. Form 8615 is primarily targeting investment income like interest, dividends, capital gains, and certain types of passive income that parents might try to shift to their children's returns to get lower tax rates.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - be super careful with AOTC (American Opportunity Tax Credit) if you have scholarship income. The IRS definitely watches these credits closely and will compare your 1098-T with what you claim. You can't claim AOTC for expenses paid with tax-free scholarship money (double-dipping). So if your scholarship covered $15k of qualifying expenses, and your total qualifying expenses were $16k, you can only claim AOTC on that $1k difference. This trips up tons of students and is a common audit trigger. Your qualified education expenses have to be reduced by the tax-free portion of your scholarships.

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This is really helpful! So for my situation, if most of my scholarship went to room and board (which I'm reporting as taxable income) and I paid tuition out of pocket, I should be able to claim AOTC on those tuition expenses, right? That seems to be what my tax software is calculating, but I wasn't sure if it was doing it correctly.

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Yes, that's exactly right. If your scholarship went toward room and board (which you'll report as taxable income), then you can claim AOTC on the tuition you paid out of pocket without any reduction. In your case, the scholarship money isn't "tax-free" since you're including it in your income, so there's no double-dipping concern. You're actually in an advantageous position compared to someone who got a tuition-specific scholarship that's tax-free but reduces their eligible AOTC expenses.

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Has anyone actually gotten in trouble for missing Form 8615 in the past? I think I was supposed to file it last year (I was a dependent with dividend income) but didn't know about it. Now I'm worried...

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I did once, about 3 years ago. Had about $4K in stock dividends my grandparents had set up for me, and was still claimed as dependent by my parents. The IRS sent a letter about 6 months after filing saying I should have used Form 8615, recalculated my tax, and sent a bill for the difference plus a small interest charge. No penalties though since it was clearly just a mistake.

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Just wanted to add some perspective as someone who works in tax preparation - you're absolutely right to be concerned about getting this right, but the good news is that based on your situation, you definitely don't need Form 8615. The key factors are: 1) You're filing as independent (nobody can claim you as a dependent), and 2) Your taxable scholarship income isn't considered "unearned income" for Form 8615 purposes anyway. That form is specifically targeting investment income like dividends, interest, and capital gains that parents might try to shift to their kids' returns. Your situation with $23k in taxable scholarships for room/board is actually pretty straightforward - just report it as income on your 1040. The fact that your previous preparer missed this entirely is concerning and suggests you made the right call handling it yourself this year. One tip: when you're reporting that scholarship income, make sure you're not double-counting it anywhere else on your return. And definitely keep good records of what portions of your scholarships went toward qualified vs non-qualified expenses in case the IRS ever asks. The IRS is generally reasonable with honest mistakes, especially from students navigating this stuff for the first time. If you made an error somewhere, they'll typically just send you a notice with the correction rather than assuming fraud. You're clearly trying to do things right, which goes a long way.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who works in tax prep! I've been so stressed about messing something up on my first time filing independently. Quick question - when you say "make sure you're not double-counting" the scholarship income, what exactly should I watch out for? I reported the $23k as "other income" on my 1040, but I'm wondering if there are other places it might accidentally get included again?

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