Form 8995: Why am I being asked to fill it out when using TurboTax?
So I'm trying to finish my taxes using TurboTax and I'm super confused right now. I entered my two W-2s from my part-time jobs at Target and Starbucks, plus my 1099-NEC from Instacart that I did for like a month last summer. The Instacart income was only about $825, and my total income from everything was around $21k. But now TurboTax is telling me I need to fill out Form 8995, and they'll notify me when it's ready to complete? I looked up what Form 8995 is and honestly it's completely confusing me. Something about qualified business income deductions? I don't even own a business! I'm stressing out because I'm trying to finish my taxes by this weekend and this form looks complicated. Do I really need to fill this out when I barely made any money from gig work? Help please!!!
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Dmitry Smirnov
That Form 8995 is showing up because your 1099-NEC from Instacart is considered self-employment income, not because you earned a lot or have a formal business. Don't worry, it's actually a good thing! The Form 8995 is for the Qualified Business Income Deduction (QBI), which allows self-employed people to deduct up to 20% of their qualified business income. Even with your relatively small Instacart earnings, you're still eligible for this deduction, which could reduce your taxable income. When TurboTax prompts you to complete this form, it should walk you through it pretty simply. Since your self-employment income is below $170,050 (if single), the calculation should be straightforward. You'll likely just enter your net profit from Instacart and the software will calculate the 20% deduction.
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Sofia Perez
•Oh that makes so much more sense! So it's actually a good thing that might lower my taxes? I had no idea that doing Instacart for a few weeks would make me count as "self-employed" in the eyes of the IRS. When you say net profit, does that mean I can subtract expenses like gas and mileage from the $825 before calculating that 20%? I didn't keep great records but definitely spent some of that money on gas driving around.
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Dmitry Smirnov
•Yes, it's definitely a good thing that could lower your taxes! Any time you do gig work like Instacart, Uber, DoorDash, etc., the IRS considers you self-employed for that portion of your income. Absolutely, you should subtract all your legitimate business expenses before calculating the 20% deduction. Mileage is a big one for delivery gigs - for 2022 you can deduct 58.5 cents per mile (Jan-June) and 62.5 cents per mile (July-Dec). Even without perfect records, make a reasonable estimate of your mileage. You can also deduct portions of your phone bill, insulated bags, and other items directly related to your Instacart work.
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ElectricDreamer
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Miguel Diaz
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Yara Abboud
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PixelPioneer
Hey just a heads up - make sure you also look into if you need to pay self-employment tax (Schedule SE) on that Instacart income. Even though the Form 8995 gives you a deduction, you still probably need to pay SE tax which is basically paying both sides of Social Security and Medicare (15.3%). That can be a nasty surprise if TurboTax hasn't calculated it yet. When I did Uber on the side last year I ended up owing a few hundred in SE tax even though my regular jobs had withheld enough income tax.
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Sofia Perez
•Wait are you serious?? I thought I was getting a tax break with that 8995 form but now I have to pay EXTRA taxes too? This is getting so complicated. How much will I have to pay on just $825 of Instacart income? I'm already living paycheck to paycheck.
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PixelPioneer
•Yes, unfortunately that's how it works. The Form 8995 gives you a deduction that reduces your income tax, but self-employment tax is separate. For $825 in income, you'll need to account for any expenses first. Let's say after deducting mileage and other expenses, your net profit is around $600. The self-employment tax would be about 15.3% of that, so roughly $92. But you do get to deduct half of that self-employment tax on your return, which helps a little. Don't panic though - even with that SE tax, your overall tax situation might still be okay depending on your total income and withholding from your W-2 jobs. TurboTax will calculate it all and show you the final result.
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Keisha Williams
Does anyone know if we can just skip the Form 8995? My buddy did some DoorDash last year and he said he just didn't bother with this form and his return was accepted fine.
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Dmitry Smirnov
•I wouldn't recommend skipping it. Form 8995 actually REDUCES your taxes by giving you a deduction, so skipping it means you'd pay MORE tax than necessary. Your friend's return might have been accepted, but that doesn't mean it was correct. The IRS accepts many returns initially and catches problems later. The QBI deduction is actually a benefit to you - it can reduce your taxable income by up to 20% of your net self-employment profit.
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Paolo Rizzo
When I was filling out Form 8995 last year I forgot to include my business expenses first, and I almost missed out on some big deductions! Make sure you fill out Schedule C before the 8995 form in TurboTax. Legitimate expenses like: - Mileage (this is the big one for delivery gigs) - Phone expenses (% used for gig work) - Hot bags/delivery equipment - Portion of car insurance - Parking fees Reduce your net profit first, then the 20% QBI deduction applies to what's left. TurboTax should walk you through this but sometimes the order matters.
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Morgan Washington
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation - did some freelance graphic design work last year (about $2,800) alongside my regular job and TurboTax is also prompting me for Form 8995. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like I should definitely take advantage of the QBI deduction rather than skip it. Paolo's point about doing Schedule C first is super important - I need to make sure I'm deducting my home office expenses, software subscriptions, and equipment costs before calculating that 20%. One question though - does anyone know if there's a minimum income threshold for the QBI deduction? I want to make sure it's worth the extra complexity for my relatively small freelance income.
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Diego Flores
•There's no minimum income threshold for the QBI deduction! Even with your $2,800 in freelance income, you're absolutely eligible for it. The deduction is designed to benefit all self-employed individuals, not just big businesses. For your graphic design work, you're looking at potentially deducting 20% of your net profit after expenses. So if you had $500 in legitimate business expenses (software, equipment, home office), your net profit would be $2,300, and you could deduct up to $460 (20% of $2,300) from your taxable income. That's definitely worth the extra form! The complexity really isn't that bad when TurboTax walks you through it step by step. Just make sure you gather all those business expense receipts first like Paolo mentioned - home office, Adobe subscriptions, new computer equipment, etc. Those upfront deductions can really add up and make the 20% QBI deduction even more valuable.
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Emma Davis
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I was in the exact same boat last month - doing gig work for the first time and completely confused about Form 8995. One thing I learned that might help others: if you're using TurboTax and it's asking for the Self-Employed upgrade just because of Form 8995, you might not actually need it. I was able to manually enter my Schedule C information and Form 8995 using the basic version after doing some research on what each line meant. The key is understanding that Form 8995 is actually TWO potential benefits: the QBI deduction (up to 20% of net profit) AND it qualifies you for the self-employment tax deduction (half of your SE tax). Even though you pay the 15.3% SE tax that others mentioned, you get to deduct half of that amount, which softens the blow. For anyone still stressed about this - take a breath! The form looks scary but it's mostly just transferring numbers from your Schedule C. TurboTax will calculate everything once you enter your business income and expenses correctly.
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Charlee Coleman
•This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been stressing about whether to pay for the TurboTax upgrade just for this one form. Your point about manually entering the Schedule C and Form 8995 info is really helpful - I had no idea that was even possible with the basic version. The self-employment tax deduction piece is something I completely missed too. So even though I have to pay the extra SE tax, getting to deduct half of it back does make it less painful. Do you remember roughly how long it took you to figure out the manual entry process? I'm worried about making mistakes since this is all new to me, but if it could save me the $120 upgrade fee that would be amazing.
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