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Zara Shah

Need help with 4137 form ASAP - confused about how to fill it out

I'm totally freaking out right now because I need to fill out a Form 4137 and I have no idea what I'm doing! I've searched everywhere online but can't find any clear instructions that make sense to me. I'm using TurboTax this year and thought their "expert help" would actually, you know, HELP... but after paying extra for their chat support, they basically just told me they couldn't assist unless I upgraded to an even more expensive package! 😡 My deadline is coming up super fast and I'm panicking. This is for reporting tip income that wasn't included on my W-2 from my serving job. My manager said I need to fill this out, but didn't offer any guidance. Does anyone know how to complete this form correctly? What information do I need? Are there any tricks or common mistakes I should avoid? Really appreciate any help from people who've done this before!

NebulaNomad

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I've filled out Form 4137 many times (former bartender here). It's actually pretty straightforward once you understand what it's for. Form 4137 is used to report tips that weren't reported to your employer and calculate the Social Security and Medicare taxes you owe on those unreported tips. Here's a basic walkthrough: You'll need to list each employer you received unreported tips from, along with their name and EIN (should be on your W-2). Then you'll enter the total tips you received, how much you reported to your employer, and the difference (unreported amount). The form will help calculate the Social Security and Medicare taxes you owe on those unreported tips. The total tax gets reported on your 1040. The trickiest part is making sure you have good records of your actual tips if they weren't all reported. Do you have a tip diary or some way you tracked your cash tips?

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Zara Shah

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Thank you so much! This helps a lot. I do have a little notebook where I wrote down my cash tips each night, so I have those amounts. One question though - for the "Allocation of tips" section, I'm totally lost. My W-2 has some amount in box 8 for "Allocated tips" - does that number go somewhere on Form 4137? And do I need to include credit card tips or just cash tips?

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NebulaNomad

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The allocated tips from Box 8 of your W-2 are tips your employer assigned to you based on sales, and yes, those go on the form if you didn't report them to your employer. For the tips question - you need to include ALL unreported tips, whether cash or credit card. If your credit card tips were already reported to your employer and included in your W-2 Box 1 wages, you don't include those again. Only include tips (cash or credit) that weren't reported to your employer. Remember to keep that notebook with your tax records in case of an audit. The IRS can be particularly interested in tip income since it's often underreported.

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Luca Ferrari

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Nia Wilson

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Does taxr.ai work with all tax software? I'm using FreeTaxUSA this year but still need help with my 4137. My situation is a bit complicated because I worked at two different restaurants last year.

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools... do they actually explain how each line should be filled out? The IRS instructions are so confusing and my tax situation with tips is different from most servers (I'm at a high-end restaurant with large tips).

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Luca Ferrari

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StarStrider

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Yuki Sato

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For the 4137 form, don't forget that if you had multiple tipped jobs, you need to list each employer separately on the form with their own EIN. I made that mistake my first time and had to amend my return. Also, make sure the total on Line 6 matches what you put on Schedule 1 of your 1040!

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Carmen Ruiz

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What if one of my employers didn't give me a W-2? I worked at a small cafe for about 2 months last year and got paid mostly in cash tips, but never received any tax forms from them. Do I still need their EIN for the 4137?

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Yuki Sato

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Yes, you still need their EIN for Form 4137. You should contact the cafe and request your W-2 - they're legally required to provide it. If they won't give you one, you can file Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) along with your tax return. You'll need to estimate your wages and withholding as accurately as possible. For the EIN, you might find it on old paystubs if you have any. Or you can call the business and simply ask for their EIN for tax purposes. If all else fails, explain in an attached statement to your tax return that you were unable to obtain the EIN despite reasonable efforts.

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Does anyone use tax software that handles the 4137 form well? I'm struggling with this on FreeTaxUSA. It keeps giving me errors when I try to enter my allocated tips.

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TaxAct has a pretty good walkthrough for Form 4137. It asks you questions in plain English and then fills out the form correctly based on your answers. It's what I've used for the past few years as a delivery driver with lots of cash tips.

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Julian Paolo

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As someone who's been doing taxes for restaurant workers for years, I want to add a few important points that might help. First, make sure you're not double-reporting tips that were already included in your W-2 Box 1 wages - this is a common mistake that can lead to overpaying taxes. Second, keep detailed records going forward! A simple phone app or notebook where you track daily cash tips will save you so much stress next year. The IRS expects tip earners to maintain contemporaneous records. Finally, if your total unreported tips are less than $20 per month from any single employer, you don't need to include those on Form 4137. But if you're consistently earning tips, you'll likely be over that threshold. The form might seem intimidating, but once you understand it's just calculating the Social Security and Medicare taxes on unreported income, it becomes much clearer.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to filing taxes with tip income and had no idea about the $20 monthly threshold rule. Quick question - when you say "contemporaneous records," does that mean I need to write down tips immediately each day, or is it okay if I update my records at the end of each week based on what I remember? I've been pretty good about tracking my cash tips but sometimes I forget to write them down until a few days later.

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