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Rajan Walker

TurboTax forcing me to complete form 8615 for unemployment income - do I need this?

I'm a 21-year-old college student trying to file my taxes separately, but my parents still claim me as a dependent. I worked briefly before covid hit and made around $2,000, then went on unemployment and received about $16,800 total from that. After entering my W2 and unemployment 1099-G, TurboTax says I owe around $1,600 in taxes, which seems right to me. The problem is when I try to e-file, TurboTax is forcing me to fill out Form 8615 before it will let me continue. This form appears to be for children with unearned income, which doesn't seem to apply to me? It's asking for all my parents' tax info, and I'm stuck because I don't have access to their full return. From what I understand, unemployment is considered unearned income, but I'm 21 and filing my own return, so I'm confused why I need this form. Does anyone know if I actually need to file Form 8615 in my situation or if TurboTax is just being weird? Is there a way around this?

The reason TurboTax is asking for Form 8615 is because you're being claimed as a dependent, you're under 24 and a full-time student, and you have significant unearned income (your unemployment benefits are considered unearned income, not earned income). This is known as the "Kiddie Tax" which applies to dependents under 19 or full-time students under 24 who have unearned income above a certain threshold ($2,300 for the 2024 tax year). Since your unemployment compensation is considered unearned income and exceeds this threshold, Form 8615 is required. Unfortunately, you will need your parents' tax information to complete this form properly, as your unearned income above the threshold may be taxed at your parents' tax rate. You'll need their taxable income amount to calculate this correctly.

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But I thought the Kiddie Tax was just for investment income like stocks or interest? Unemployment benefits are taxable, but I didn't think they counted as the type of unearned income that triggers Form 8615. Is that definitely correct?

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The Kiddie Tax does apply to unemployment benefits. Many people associate it only with investment income, but the IRS considers unemployment compensation to be unearned income for purposes of Form 8615. If you want to confirm this, you can check IRS Publication 929 which covers tax rules for dependents. Since you're under 24, a full-time student, and claimed as a dependent, with unearned income over the threshold, Form 8615 is required. If you're struggling to get your parents' information, you might want to ask them for just the specific numbers you need rather than their entire return.

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I went through the EXACT same issue last year! I was also a student with unemployment income and TurboTax kept forcing me to fill out that 8615 form. I spent hours trying to figure it out and eventually found a solution using https://taxr.ai - it helped me determine I actually didn't need to file that form in my specific situation. The site has this document analyzer where I uploaded my 1099-G and W-2, and it flagged that TurboTax was incorrectly requiring Form 8615 for my situation. Turns out there's a specific exception for certain types of unemployment compensation if you're a student who previously had a job. The AI analyzed my documents and helped me understand which parts of the tax code applied to my situation.

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Ev Luca

Does this actually work? I'm in a similar situation but with internship income and some stock my grandparents gave me. TurboTax is making me fill out like 3 different extra forms and I'm confused about whether I actually need them all.

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I'm skeptical about using some random website for tax advice. How do you know their information is correct? If the IRS says you need Form 8615 and you don't file it, couldn't you get in trouble later?

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The site analyzes your specific documents based on the current tax code, so it's not just generic advice. It specifically looks at your situation and shows which tax rules apply. In my case, it correctly identified that my unemployment benefits were eligible for an exception because of my previous employment. The site is actually pretty careful about when Form 8615 is required versus when it's not. For your stock situation, that definitely sounds like investment income which would likely require Form 8615 if you're a dependent. The analyzer would confirm this for your specific situation though - it shows you the exact IRS rules that apply to your documents.

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Ev Luca

Just wanted to update that I tried the taxr.ai document analyzer that was mentioned earlier. I uploaded my W-2 and 1099 forms and it immediately flagged that my situation was different from the original poster's. Since my income included actual investment income (unlike unemployment), I did need to file Form 8615. The analyzer explained exactly why - apparently the "Kiddie Tax" definitely applies to my stock dividends, but there are specific rules around certain types of income for students who also have earned income. It even gave me the exact figures I needed to enter on each line of the form! Saved me so much confusion and probably an audit later.

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If you're claimed as a dependent and have unearned income, here's what you need to know about Form 8615: 1) The threshold for 2024 filing is $2,300 of unearned income 2) Unemployment is 100% considered unearned income 3) You must file Form 8615 if you're under 24, a full-time student, claimed as a dependent, and exceed the threshold 4) The form calculates tax on your unearned income at your parents' tax rate I'm a tax preparer and see this confusion every year with students on unemployment. Form 8615 is definitely required in your situation - TurboTax is correct. You'll need to get your parents' taxable income figure from their return to complete it properly.

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Does this apply if the parents file separately too? My parents are divorced and I'm claimed on my dad's return, but does my mom's income matter for Form 8615?

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If your parents are divorced, you only need the taxable income from the parent who claims you as a dependent. So in your case, you only need your dad's information, not your mom's. For married parents filing separately, you'd need to use the taxable income of the parent with the higher taxable income. The IRS has specific rules for different filing situations that determine whose rate applies to your unearned income.

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Has anyone actually found a way to bypass the Form 8615 requirement in TurboTax? I'm in the exact same situation (student, on unemployment, parents claim me) but my parents are refusing to give me their tax info for "privacy reasons." I literally can't complete my return right now.

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You might need to file by paper instead of e-filing. TurboTax won't let you e-file without completing all required forms, but you could print your return and mail it in without Form 8615. Just know that this might trigger a letter from the IRS later if they determine you needed that form.

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Thanks for the suggestion. Would they actually come after me though if I paper file without that form? I really don't have access to my parents' info and need to file my taxes somehow.

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