Has Anyone Been Penalized for Not Filing Form 8958 When Filing Married Separately?
So, I just realized that my husband and I were supposed to file Form 8958 with our tax returns for the past 3 years we've been filing married separately. Never even heard of this form until yesterday when I was randomly looking through some tax stuff online! We keep totally separate finances - different bank accounts, separate credit cards, the whole nine yards - so I didn't think we needed anything special beyond checking the "married filing separately" box. Now I'm freaking out wondering if we're going to get slammed with penalties or if I need to file amended returns for all those years. The form seems kinda pointless in our situation since we literally don't share any income or expenses, but I don't want to mess with the IRS either. Has anyone been through this? Did the IRS come after you for missing Form 8958? Should I be worried enough to go through the headache of filing amended returns for previous years?
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Danielle Mays
You're likely fine, but it's good you caught this now. Form 8958 "Allocation of Tax Amounts Between Certain Individuals in Community Property States" is only required if you live in a community property state: Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, or Wisconsin. If you don't live in one of those states, you don't need this form. If you do live in a community property state, then yes, technically you should have been filing it. The form helps allocate community income and deductions between spouses filing separately. As for penalties, the IRS rarely penalizes for missing forms alone if all income was properly reported. If you did report all your income correctly on your separate returns, there's probably no need to amend unless you lived in a community property state AND didn't properly allocate community income.
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Derek Olson
•Thanks for the clarification! We actually do live in California (moved here 3 years ago which is when we started filing separately). So sounds like we technically should have been filing it. All our income was reported correctly on our separate returns, we just didn't allocate it using this form. Do you think we need to amend all those returns?
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Danielle Mays
•Since you're in California, Form 8958 is technically required because California is a community property state. Under community property laws, most income earned during marriage is considered community income, split 50/50 between spouses regardless of who earned it. If you've been reporting only your individual income on your separate returns without considering the community property rules, then your tax liability might be incorrect. I would recommend speaking with a tax professional familiar with California community property rules to determine if amendments are necessary. The biggest concern isn't the missing form itself, but rather if the underlying income allocation was done correctly according to community property laws.
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Roger Romero
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Anna Kerber
•How does this work exactly? Does it just tell you what forms you need or does it actually help with the filing process? I'm in Texas and just realized I might have this same issue with my returns.
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Niko Ramsey
•Sounds like an ad honestly. Did you actually get audited or face any penalties for the years you messed up? That's what OP is worried about, not how to fix it going forward.
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Roger Romero
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Niko Ramsey
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Seraphina Delan
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Kristin Frank
•Sounds too good to be true. I've tried everything to reach someone at the IRS and always end up waiting hours or getting disconnected. No way they can magically get you through when the IRS phone systems are completely overloaded.
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Seraphina Delan
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Kristin Frank
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Micah Trail
Something everyone seems to be missing here - if you and your spouse truly keep separate finances and have separate income, you STILL need to follow community property rules in community property states. That's the whole point of Form 8958. For example, in California, even if you keep separate bank accounts, the law considers income earned during marriage to be owned 50/50 by both spouses. So if you earn $100K and your spouse earns $50K, you each need to report $75K on your separate returns. Not filing Form 8958 is one thing, but not properly allocating income according to community property laws is a bigger issue that could trigger an audit.
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Derek Olson
•Wait, so even though we keep completely separate finances and don't share any accounts, I'm supposed to report half of his income and he's supposed to report half of mine? That makes no sense! How would the IRS even know if we don't file this form?
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Micah Trail
•Yes, that's exactly how community property works in states like California - it doesn't matter if you keep separate accounts. The law considers income earned during marriage to be equally owned by both spouses regardless of who earned it. The IRS might notice discrepancies during automated matching of your separate returns, especially if there's a significant income difference between you and your spouse. They can see you're married filing separately and living in a community property state. If the numbers don't reflect proper community property allocation, it could raise flags. Plus, if you're ever audited for other reasons, this would definitely come up. It's not worth the risk when compliance is relatively straightforward with the right guidance.
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Nia Watson
I'm a bit confused by all this. My wife and I file separately because we have very different income levels and it saves us money. We live in Texas. Are we supposed to be splitting all our income 50/50 on our tax returns even though we earn different amounts? We've been filing for years without this form.
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Danielle Mays
•Yes, in Texas (a community property state), the general rule is that income earned during marriage is community income that should be split 50/50 for tax purposes, regardless of who earned it. There are some exceptions for certain types of separate property income. If you've been filing without allocating income according to community property rules, you might want to consult with a tax professional. Filing separately in community property states rarely saves money compared to filing jointly, precisely because of these income-splitting rules. The only cases where it typically helps are with certain income-based student loan repayment plans, medical expense deductions, or specific situations involving past tax issues.
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Alberto Souchard
Just offering a different perspective - I've been filing married separately in California for 7 years and never included Form 8958. I've been audited twice for unrelated reasons, and the IRS never mentioned the missing form. We do properly allocate our income according to community property laws though (splitting 50/50), so that might be why it wasn't an issue. If you're worried, consider filing the form going forward, but I personally wouldn't stress about amending past returns unless you didn't properly allocate income according to community property rules.
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Luca Esposito
This is a really helpful thread! I'm in Nevada (another community property state) and just discovered I've been missing Form 8958 for the past 4 years. Like Derek, my spouse and I keep completely separate finances, but it sounds like we still need to split our income 50/50 for tax purposes regardless. From what everyone's saying, it seems like the main issue isn't the missing form itself, but whether you've been properly allocating income according to community property laws. If you've been reporting only your individual income without the 50/50 split, that could be a bigger problem than just the missing paperwork. I'm leaning toward consulting with a tax professional who understands community property rules rather than trying to figure this out myself. The peace of mind would be worth the cost, especially since it sounds like the rules are more complex than just "keep your finances separate.
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StarStrider
•You're absolutely right about consulting with a tax professional - that's probably the smartest approach for anyone in this situation. I'm actually in a similar boat (Arizona, been filing separately for 3 years without Form 8958) and this whole thread has been eye-opening. What's really concerning me now is that I've been reporting only my own income this whole time, not doing any 50/50 split. My husband makes significantly more than I do, so if we're supposed to be splitting everything equally, my tax liability has probably been way off. Has anyone found a good way to estimate how much this might have affected their taxes before talking to a professional? I'm trying to figure out if this is a "minor paperwork issue" or a "potentially owe thousands in back taxes" situation.
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