From $2,000 refund to owing $4,700 after getting married - what happened?
I'm completely baffled by our tax situation this year. My husband and I just finished our taxes (tried 4 different times) and somehow went from both of us getting refunds last year to owing $4,700 to the IRS! We got married last summer and this is our first time filing jointly. Our combined income is only about $135,000, so it's not like we're in some crazy high tax bracket. I was expecting maybe a smaller refund than what we got individually last year, but owing nearly $5k?? That can't be right, can it? I've double-checked all our W-2s and everything seems correct. We don't have any complicated investments or rental properties or anything. Just regular jobs with regular withholding. Neither of us changed our W-4 after getting married - could that be the issue? Has anyone else experienced this "marriage penalty" thing I keep hearing about? Is this normal or did we mess something up? I'm seriously stressed about this!
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Axel Far
What you're experiencing is a common surprise for newly married couples. This likely isn't a mistake - it's probably due to how your withholdings were calculated throughout the year versus your actual tax liability as a married couple. When you're single, your withholding is calculated based on individual tax brackets. But when you file jointly, your combined income might push you into a higher tax bracket. More importantly, if both of you were claiming the standard deduction as singles, you now only get one standard deduction as a couple (though it's larger than a single deduction, it's not double). The biggest issue is likely that neither of you adjusted your W-4s after marriage. Both of you were probably withholding at the "Single" rate, which isn't enough when your incomes are combined. This is especially true if you both earn similar amounts. The good solution is to update your W-4s with your employers ASAP for 2025. You can use the IRS withholding calculator online to figure out the right withholding. You might need to have additional amounts withheld from each paycheck to make up for this year's shortfall.
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Jasmine Hernandez
•Would it help if they itemized deductions instead of taking the standard deduction? And do they have until April 15th to contribute to retirement accounts to lower their taxable income for 2024?
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Axel Far
•Itemizing deductions could potentially help, but only if their total eligible deductions exceed the married filing jointly standard deduction ($29,200 for 2024). Most couples don't have enough deductible expenses to make itemizing worthwhile, especially with the higher standard deduction from recent tax law changes. Yes, they have until April 15th, 2025 to make contributions to certain retirement accounts that could reduce their 2024 taxable income. Traditional IRA contributions (if they qualify based on income) or HSA contributions (if they have an eligible high-deductible health plan) can both reduce taxable income. For 2024, they could each contribute up to $7,000 to an IRA if under 50, potentially reducing their taxable income by up to $14,000 if they both qualify.
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Luis Johnson
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Ellie Kim
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Luis Johnson
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Ellie Kim
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Miguel Harvey
One thing nobody mentioned yet - check if either of you has tax credits that phase out at certain income levels. When you combine incomes, you might lose eligibility for credits you qualified for when filing single. Also, if one of you itemized before and the other took standard deduction, run the numbers both ways now. My wife and I found that even though we had about $27k in potential itemized deductions, the married standard deduction was still higher, so we lost the benefit of some of those deductions when filing jointly.
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Kaitlyn Otto
•That's a good point about tax credits! I was getting some education credits last year that might have phased out with our combined income. Is there any way to figure out if filing separately would be better in our situation? Or is joint filing almost always better?
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Miguel Harvey
•Filing separately is rarely better than filing jointly, but there are exceptions. The main situations where filing separately might benefit you are if one spouse has significant medical expenses (which have a 7.5% AGI threshold), student loan interest deductions with income-based repayment plans, or if one spouse has past tax debts the other doesn't want to be responsible for. You can run your tax return both ways to see which results in a lower combined tax. Just be aware that if you file separately, neither of you can take certain credits like education credits, and if one spouse itemizes, the other must also itemize even if they have few deductions. Most tax software will let you compare both scenarios to see which is better for your specific situation.
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Ashley Simian
Make sure you look at your actual tax RATE and not just the refund/amount owed. A lot of couples don't realize that getting a refund doesn't mean you paid less tax - it just means you overpaid throughout the year. If your total tax divided by your income stayed about the same, then the issue is 100% your withholding, not a marriage penalty. I bet if you look at your W-2 boxes, you'll find you both had way less withheld than needed. Also if either of you has student loans on income-based repayment, you DEFINITELY want to look at filing separately. My payment went up $300/month after filing jointly because of my husband's income!
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Oliver Cheng
•This is spot on. People obsess about refunds vs. owing, but what really matters is your ACTUAL tax liability. My wife and I owed $2k after marriage but our effective tax rate dropped from 14% to 13.2% combined. So we actually saved money despite owing at filing time. The withholding tables just aren't designed well for dual-income couples. The W-4 calculator on the IRS website is actually pretty accurate if you take the time to use it properly.
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