Was federal tax withholding changed in 2024? Huge swing from refund to owing
So I'm completely freaking out right now. My husband and I usually get a refund of around $2,500-3,800 each year, but we just finished our taxes and now we OWE $3,200!! What the heck happened?? We literally only have W2 income, nothing complicated. I went through everything like 5 times, double-checked all our numbers, and looked at exactly where we're owing from. It looks like we were severely under-withheld this past year. Our federal income tax was only withheld at about 7% of our income! I'm so confused how we could have such a massive swing from refund to owing. Did the IRS change withholding calculations in 2024 or something? We didn't change our W4s or anything. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm seriously panicking about coming up with this money before the filing deadline.
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Ethan Anderson
This is actually something I've been seeing a lot as a tax preparer this season. The IRS did adjust withholding tables in 2024, but the bigger issue might be that you and your husband didn't update your W-4 forms after the 2020 redesign. The old W-4 used personal allowances, but the newer form is completely different. If you both claim "Married" on your W-4s without checking the box for "two jobs/working spouse" in Step 2, you're likely under-withholding. The system basically assumes only one of you is working and adjusts withholding downward accordingly. Also, if you had any changes - raises, bonuses, different retirement contributions, or changes in other deductions compared to previous years - that could contribute to the swing. I'd recommend filling out new W-4 forms with your employers ASAP using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator to avoid this next year.
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Ava Kim
•Thanks for explaining! We definitely haven't updated our W-4s in years, and actually we both got promotions last year with about 8% raises. But I still don't understand how we could go from $3k refund to owing $3k+ with just those changes? That's like a $6,000 swing! Do the new W-4 forms really make that big a difference?
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Ethan Anderson
•Yes, the difference can absolutely be that dramatic, especially with the combination of outdated W-4s and salary increases. When both spouses work and claim "Married" on their W-4s without the proper adjustments, each employer calculates withholding as if that salary is the only household income and that you get the full married filing jointly standard deduction against just that income. With raises, you're likely in a higher tax bracket now when your incomes are combined. An 8% raise for both of you could push more of your income into a higher tax bracket. The withholding tables aren't sophisticated enough to know about both jobs unless you specifically indicate that on your W-4 forms.
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Layla Mendes
Hey there! I had almost the exact same situation last year - went from getting a nice refund to owing $2700! I was freaking out just like you. After spending hours researching, I stumbled across this service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that analyzed my pay stubs and tax documents to identify exactly where my withholding went wrong. The tool showed me that the issue was both our W-4 forms being outdated plus my husband's employer was calculating withholding incorrectly. We weren't checking the "two earners" box on our W-4s. The site gave me a personalized report showing exactly what to change on our W-4s and even calculated how much extra we should withhold each paycheck to avoid a surprise next year.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
•Did you have to talk to an actual person or was it all automated? I'm in a similar situation but hate talking to people about my finances. Was it easy to understand what they recommended?
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Aria Park
•I'm suspicious of these online tax tools. How accurate was it really? And how much did it cost you? Most of these services promise the world and then charge a fortune for basic advice you could find on the IRS website for free.
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Layla Mendes
•It was completely automated - I just uploaded my W-2s and last pay stub and the system did the analysis. No awkward conversations with anyone about my finances. The recommendations were super clear - it showed me exactly what boxes to check on the new W-4 and even calculated the specific additional withholding amount we needed. As for accuracy, it was spot on. We implemented the changes it suggested in February last year, and when we filed this year, we got a small refund instead of owing thousands. The service was worth every penny for the stress it saved me. I'm not interested in spending hours digging through IRS publications when there's a tool that can figure it out in minutes.
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Aria Park
I need to apologize for being skeptical about taxr.ai in my previous comment. After our similar withholding disaster this year, I decided to give it a try anyway. I uploaded our W-2s and recent pay stubs, and wow - it immediately identified that both my wife and I had the wrong withholding settings. The system showed us exactly what was happening - we were both claiming "Married" status without the two-earners checkbox, so both our employers were under-withholding by a LOT. The report even calculated that we needed to add exactly $217 of additional withholding per paycheck to come out even next year. We've updated our W-4s with our employers using their exact recommendations, and our latest paychecks show much more realistic withholding amounts. Definitely feels better knowing we won't be blindsided again next tax season!
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Noah Ali
If you're really struggling to reach someone at the IRS to resolve withholding questions (which is super common), I'd recommend trying Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I was on hold with the IRS for HOURS trying to get clarification about these withholding changes, but their system kept hanging up on me. Claimyr got me through to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes who helped explain exactly what happened with the withholding tables and how to fix my W-4. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was skeptical that anything could actually get me through to the IRS quickly, but it actually works. The agent I spoke with confirmed that tons of married couples are getting hit with unexpected tax bills this year because of outdated W-4 forms and the revised withholding calculations.
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Chloe Boulanger
•How does this actually work? I don't understand how a third-party service could get you through to the IRS faster than calling directly. Sounds like magic or a scam.
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James Martinez
•Yeah right. Nothing gets you through to the IRS faster. I've tried EVERYTHING. Been trying to resolve an issue for 8 months and have yet to speak to a human. If this actually worked, the IRS would shut it down immediately.
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Noah Ali
•It uses an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When it finally reaches a human agent, it calls your phone and connects you directly. No magic, just smart technology that does the waiting for you. And they're not doing anything the IRS would shut down - they're just using technology to navigate the standard phone system. It's basically like having someone else wait on hold for you, then they get you when a human finally answers.
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James Martinez
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Olivia Harris
Just want to add a different perspective - I'm a payroll administrator and we've seen this issue CONSTANTLY this year. The IRS did adjust withholding tables, but the real issue is the W-4 form redesign that many people still haven't updated. If you and your spouse both work and you're using old W-4 forms or haven't checked the "two jobs" box on the new forms, you're almost guaranteed to be under-withheld. I recommend every dual-income household run their numbers through the IRS Withholding Estimator tool (it's free): https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator The problem is so common that our HR department now sends quarterly reminders to all employees about checking their withholding.
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Ava Kim
•Thanks for this perspective! I just checked our W-4s online through our employers' portals and yep - neither of us had checked that "two jobs" box. Do you think it's worth trying to get an extension to file since we owe so much? And will we get hit with underpayment penalties?
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Olivia Harris
•You can absolutely file for an extension using Form 4868, which gives you until October 15 to file your return. However, it's important to understand that this is only an extension to file the paperwork, not an extension to pay what you owe. You'll still need to estimate and pay your tax by the regular deadline to avoid penalties and interest. Regarding underpayment penalties, you might avoid them if you meet one of the safe harbor provisions: if your withholding and estimated payments cover either 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your prior year tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000). If you were getting refunds in previous years, you might qualify under the prior year tax safe harbor, but you should check your specific situation.
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Alexander Zeus
Has anyone tried adjusting their W-4 through their employer's online portal? My HR says I can do it there but I'm worried about messing it up even more. Do I just check the box in Step 2 for two jobs or do I need to fill out the multiple jobs worksheet too?
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Ethan Anderson
•The online portal is perfectly fine to use for W-4 adjustments. For most people with two relatively similar-paying jobs (like married couples where both work), simply checking the box in Step 2(c) is the easiest approach. This basically tells your employer to withhold at the higher single rate rather than the married rate. If your jobs have very different salaries, or you have more than two jobs, the multiple jobs worksheet or the IRS withholding calculator will give you more accurate results. You'd enter an additional amount to withhold in Step 4(c) based on those calculations.
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