Was tax withholding changed in 2024? Massive swing in our refund for 2025 filing
So I'm really confused right now. For the past 5 years, my husband and I have consistently gotten back around $3,500-4,200 in our tax refund. This year, we suddenly OWE $3,300!! We haven't changed jobs, and all our income is still just from our W-2s like always. I spent the whole weekend combing through everything, comparing to last year's return, triple checking all the numbers, and trying to figure out what the heck happened. From what I can tell, it looks like we were significantly under-withheld on our paychecks throughout the year. Our federal income tax is being withheld at approximately 7.5% of our income. Was withholding changed in 2024 or something? I don't understand how we could go from expecting thousands back to suddenly owing thousands with no major life changes. Has anyone else experienced this kind of swing for their 2024 taxes (filing in 2025)? I'm completely baffled.
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LongPeri
There were no federal changes to withholding tables for 2024, but there are several things that could explain this dramatic swing in your tax situation. First, check if either of you changed your W-4 withholding elections recently. Sometimes employers implement new payroll systems that reset withholding to default settings, or there might have been a miscommunication when updating information. Second, look closely at your W-2 boxes. Compare Box 1 (wages) and Box 2 (federal income tax withheld) to last year's W-2s. This will show if your withholding percentage actually changed. A 7.5% withholding rate does sound quite low depending on your income level. Third, check if any tax credits you previously qualified for have disappeared. Changes in eligibility for credits like Child Tax Credit, Earned Income Credit, or education credits can dramatically impact your bottom line even if income stays the same. Lastly, verify that both of your employers are withholding correctly. If you both work, make sure you've accounted for dual income on your W-4s. The default withholding assumes you're the only income earner in your household.
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Oscar O'Neil
•But what about that new W4 form that came out like 2-3 years ago? I heard that was messing people up. Could that have something to do with it? Their employers might have just now implemented it.
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LongPeri
•You're absolutely right about the redesigned W-4 form potentially causing issues. The form that came out in 2020 eliminated allowances and changed how multiple jobs and spouse's income are handled. Many employers have been rolling out new payroll systems that implement this updated form, sometimes without employees realizing their withholding calculations have changed. If the employers only recently implemented the new W-4 system and didn't have the original employees complete new forms, the system may have defaulted to settings that don't account for their specific situation. This is especially problematic for dual-income households.
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Sara Hellquiem
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Charlee Coleman
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Liv Park
•Does it work with state tax returns too? We're in California and their state withholding seems even more messed up than the federal.
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Sara Hellquiem
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Charlee Coleman
Okay I was skeptical but I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and holy crap it actually helped!! Turns out my wife's employer changed payroll systems mid-year and her withholding percentage dropped by almost half without us noticing. The tool highlighted exactly which paychecks changed and showed the calculation error. We're still owing this year, but at least now we understand why and have fixed it going forward so we won't have another nasty surprise next year. Definitely worth checking out if you're in a similar situation.
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Leeann Blackstein
Ugh, we had the same problem and were getting nowhere with figuring it out. In desperation I tried to call the IRS for help but kept getting disconnected after waiting on hold for 2+ hours. Finally found https://claimyr.com which got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes! They have this weird system that basically waits on hold for you and calls when an agent is ready. Here's a video of how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent explained that many employers' payroll systems updated their withholding calculations in 2024, and if you didn't submit a new W-4, it might have reset to default settings. She walked us through exactly what happened and helped us calculate the correct withholding for next year. Saved us from making the same mistake again!
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Ryder Greene
•Wait I don't understand...the IRS actually answers their phone? I thought that was literally impossible these days. Is this some kind of scam?
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Carmella Fromis
•This sounds like total BS. If it was that easy to get through to the IRS everyone would do it. Plus they probably charge like $100 for this "service" that probably doesn't even work.
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Leeann Blackstein
•The IRS does answer their phones, but the average wait time is over 90 minutes and many calls get disconnected. Claimyr basically uses an automated system to wait in the queue for you, then calls you when an agent is about to pick up. I was surprised it worked too! No, they don't charge anywhere near that much. It's actually quite reasonable considering the alternative is spending your whole day redialing the IRS. And yes, it absolutely works - I spoke with an agent named Marcus who was incredibly helpful with our withholding issue.
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Carmella Fromis
I can't believe I'm saying this but I tried that Claimyr service and it actually worked. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes when I'd previously wasted 3 separate afternoons trying to get through on my own. The agent confirmed that there was a major issue with employer withholding systems in 2024 - apparently a lot of payroll software companies updated their algorithms to align with the newer W-4 forms, and many employers implemented these updates without having employees fill out new forms. So yeah, tons of people are getting surprised this tax season. My advice is fix your W-4 ASAP so this doesn't happen again next year. The IRS has a tax withholding estimator on their website that's pretty helpful for figuring out what you should put on the new forms.
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Theodore Nelson
Check box 2 on your W-2s from 2023 vs 2024 and calculate the percentage of withholding. I'm an HR manager and we've seen this issue a lot this year. Many payroll systems were updated to better align with the newer W-4 form structure, but if employees didn't fill out new W-4s, the system often defaults to the bare minimum withholding. Also worth noting - the IRS changed how they handle withholding for multiple jobs/working spouses a few years back. The new W-4 is supposed to account for this better, but ONLY if you fill it out correctly with both incomes considered.
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Freya Collins
•Thank you SO MUCH, this makes sense now. I just checked our W-2s and you're absolutely right - our withholding percentage dropped from about 12% in 2023 to 7.5% in 2024. Neither of us filled out new W-4s last year, but my husband's company did switch to a new payroll provider around March. I'm guessing that's when the withholding changed. Is there anything we can do about the taxes we owe now, or are we just stuck with the bill?
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Theodore Nelson
•Unfortunately for this year, you'll likely need to pay what you owe. The IRS holds the taxpayer responsible for ensuring proper withholding, not the employer. You might qualify for a payment plan if the amount is difficult to pay all at once. For future withholding, I strongly recommend both of you submit new W-4 forms ASAP. Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website to get the most accurate guidance. Make sure to check the box in Step 2 for multiple jobs/working spouse, and you might want to also add an additional amount to withhold in Step 4(c) to create a cushion.
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AaliyahAli
Had a similar issue. My withholding suddenly decreased without me changing anything. I use FreeTaxUSA and they have a really helpful "tax return comparison" feature that shows your current return side-by-side with last year. Made it super obvious that my federal withholding had dropped by almost 35% despite my income staying about the same!
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Ellie Simpson
•Did you try using that IRS withholding calculator thing to fix it for this year? I'm worried the same thing is happening to me right now and don't want a surprise next April.
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