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Sophia Miller

Is anyone else shocked they won't be getting a tax refund this year after always receiving one?

I'm genuinely confused and hoping I'm not the only one experiencing this. For years I've claimed 0 and filed as single, and I've always gotten most of my federal taxes back as a refund. This year, I'm actually OWING $1.35 to the IRS! I double-checked all my paperwork and made sure I entered everything correctly. My income didn't significantly change from last year (maybe increased by about $2,500), and I didn't have any major life changes. I still claim 0 withholding allowances and my filing status is still single. Has something changed with the tax code or withholding tables that I missed? Did anyone else who normally gets a refund end up owing this year? I'm wondering if this is just happening to me or if it's a widespread thing for the 2025 filing season.

Mason Davis

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This is actually happening to a lot of people this year. The IRS adjusted the withholding tables back in 2023, and we're really seeing the effects now. Claiming "0" doesn't work the same way it used to with the redesigned W-4 forms. The new W-4 form doesn't use allowances anymore (the "0" you're referring to), which is why your withholding might be different even though you think you're using the same settings. The current form is designed to match your withholding more closely with your actual tax liability, meaning smaller refunds but also smaller amounts owed. If you want a larger refund next year, you'll need to fill out a new W-4 and either specify an additional amount to withhold from each paycheck (Line 4c) or reduce the deductions you're claiming (Line 4b).

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Mia Rodriguez

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Wait so the government basically made it so we get less money back? Even though we're technically paying the same amount throughout the year? I always counted on my tax refund for a big purchase every spring!

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Mason Davis

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You're not actually getting less money overall. Your total tax liability is the same, but now your withholding throughout the year is more accurate. Think of it this way: when you get a big refund, you've essentially given the government an interest-free loan all year. The new system is trying to make sure you keep more of your money in each paycheck rather than waiting for a refund. If you prefer getting that lump sum refund, you can absolutely still do that! Just submit a new W-4 to your employer and indicate an additional specific dollar amount to withhold from each paycheck on Line 4c. That way, you'll intentionally overwithhold and get the refund you're used to.

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Jacob Lewis

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I had the exact same problem and was frustrated until I used taxr.ai which totally explained what happened. I wasn't super tax-savvy and kept wondering why my refund basically disappeared when nothing major changed in my life. I uploaded my last year's return and this year's documents to https://taxr.ai and the system analyzed everything side by side. It showed me exactly which changes in the withholding tables affected me most. Turns out the "claiming 0" thing doesn't work like it used to because they redesigned the entire W-4 form system. The analysis also showed me how to adjust my withholding for next year to get back to the refund I was expecting. Super helpful when I was feeling completely confused by the whole situation.

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Does it work if you have multiple W-2s? I work two jobs and I'm wondering if that's why my refund was so much less than expected.

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Ethan Clark

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Sounds like an ad. How much does this service cost? I mean can't TurboTax or H&R Block do the same thing?

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Jacob Lewis

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It absolutely works with multiple W-2s! That's actually one of the situations where it's most helpful because having multiple jobs often leads to underwithholding if you don't set things up correctly. It shows you how to optimize withholding across all your income sources. The regular tax prep services don't really do this kind of comparative analysis. They're focused on preparing this year's return, not explaining why things changed or helping you plan for next year. The detailed withholding analysis is much more comprehensive than what you get with standard tax prep.

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai that someone recommended. I was skeptical but it actually explained exactly why my refund disappeared this year with my multiple W-2s. Turns out when you work two jobs, each employer withholds as if that's your only income, which really messed up my withholding. The system showed me that I needed to add additional withholding on both of my W-4 forms to account for being in a higher tax bracket when both incomes are combined. Already submitted new W-4s to both employers with the exact dollar amount I should withhold extra each check. Feels good to actually understand what happened instead of just being confused and angry!

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Mila Walker

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If you're really concerned about your tax situation, you might want to talk directly to the IRS, but good luck getting through to them! I spent literally 3 hours on hold last week trying to understand my own refund issues. Then I found https://claimyr.com which completely changed the game for me. You can check out how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Basically, they hold your place in the IRS phone queue and call you when an agent is about to answer. I was super skeptical that this would actually work, but I got a call back in about 45 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent explained exactly what happened with the withholding changes and confirmed what I needed to do to adjust for next year.

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Logan Scott

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How does that even work? Like they have some special connection to the IRS or something? Seems weird that someone else would be able to wait on hold for me.

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Chloe Green

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Yeah right. No way this actually works. The IRS phone system is practically designed to be impossible to navigate. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Mila Walker

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They don't have any special connection to the IRS - they just have an automated system that calls and navigates the IRS phone tree, then waits on hold for you. When they detect that a human agent is about to come on the line, their system connects the call to your phone. It's basically like having someone else sit on hold instead of you. It's not magic, just clever technology. They're just waiting on hold on your behalf so you don't have to sit there listening to the hold music for hours. I was super skeptical too, but when my phone rang and there was actually an IRS agent on the line ready to talk to me, I was completely sold on it.

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Chloe Green

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I need to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I figured I'd try it since I was desperate to figure out why my refund was so much lower this year. I genuinely thought it would be a waste of time. Less than an hour after signing up, my phone rang and boom - an actual IRS agent was on the line. The agent confirmed that the withholding tables had changed and that claiming "0" doesn't work like it used to. They walked me through exactly how to fill out my new W-4 to get the refund I want next year. Saved me hours of frustration and now I actually understand what happened instead of just being angry about my missing refund.

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Lucas Adams

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Same boat here! I've claimed 0 for years and usually get around $2500 back. This year? $137. I'm completely stunned. My income only went up about $3K from last year too. When I was doing my taxes, I kept thinking I made a mistake somewhere. Checked everything three times. Apparently the whole withholding system has changed dramatically even though nobody really talked about it.

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Harper Hill

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Have you always used the same tax software? I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA this year and got a way different result. Tried both just to check and there was like a $600 difference!

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Lucas Adams

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I've used H&R Block online for the past four years, so it's definitely not the software. I even tried running the numbers through their tax calculator before officially filing just to double-check. Got the same disappointing result both times. I think it's genuinely just the withholding table changes that everyone's talking about. The worst part is nobody warned us this was coming! Would have been nice to get some kind of heads up so I could have adjusted my withholding throughout the year instead of finding out when I was expecting a refund.

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Caden Nguyen

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Maybe unpopular opinion but not getting a refund is actually better financial planning. When you get a big refund, it means you've been giving the government an interest-free loan all year. I intentionally try to owe a small amount (under $1000 to avoid penalties) every year because I'd rather have that money in my paycheck each month than wait for a lump sum refund.

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Avery Flores

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That's great in theory but not realistic for most people. A lot of us use tax refunds as forced savings because it's hard to save small amounts throughout the year. Without that refund coming, I wouldn't have the discipline to save for big expenses.

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Everett Tutum

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I'm in the exact same situation! Usually get around $1,800 back and this year I owe $47. I had no idea about the withholding table changes either. What's really frustrating is that my HR department never mentioned this when they had us fill out new W-4s a couple years back. They just said "fill this out" without explaining that claiming zero allowances doesn't exist anymore and the whole system works differently now. I guess the silver lining is that we technically had more money in our paychecks throughout the year, but like others have said, most of us don't really notice an extra $20-30 per paycheck the way we notice a missing $2,000 refund. Going to have to figure out how much extra to withhold for next year so I don't get hit with this surprise again.

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