First time filing taxes as married couple and totally lost on why we owe money?
So my husband and I tied the knot back in June last year. We've been living together for a while before that, but this is our first tax season as a legally married couple. My income is about $187k and his brings in around $95k. Last year when we were just living together (but filing as single), we got back roughly $12k in refunds combined. A big chunk of that was because I have about $28k in mortgage interest deductions. We haven't changed anything with our paycheck withholdings - still have them set up like we're single individuals with the maximum being taken out. But now that we're filing jointly as married, we somehow OWE money instead of getting a refund! I always thought getting married was supposed to widen your tax bracket and actually save you money, especially when there's a difference in how much each spouse makes. Isn't that the whole "marriage benefit" thing I keep hearing about? Can someone please explain what's happening here? I'm totally confused why we went from a nice refund to owing the IRS when nothing else has really changed except our marriage status.
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Madeline Blaze
The "marriage benefit" isn't automatic - it depends on your specific situation. What's probably happening is that your withholdings didn't adjust properly for your new filing status. When you file jointly, your combined income ($282k) puts you in a higher tax bracket than either of you were in individually. While it's true that married filing jointly brackets are wider than single brackets, they're not twice as wide. So two high earners like yourselves can sometimes pay more tax when married (informally called the "marriage penalty"). The bigger issue is likely your withholdings. Since you kept them set as "single," each of your employers is calculating withholding as if your job is the only income for a single person. They don't know about your spouse's income. When you combine incomes on a joint return, you often need more withholding than the sum of two "single" withholdings. Try using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website to figure out the right W-4 settings for your situation. You'll both need to submit new W-4 forms to your employers to avoid owing next year.
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Max Knight
•But I thought the marriage penalty was eliminated with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act? Isn't that supposed to be gone now?
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Tyler Lefleur
•Wow, I had no idea that our withholdings would be an issue! I always assumed since we were both taking the maximum amount out as single people, that would be more than enough when combined. So even though we're technically in a situation where there should be a "marriage benefit" (since our incomes are pretty different), the withholding issue is basically canceling that out and then some?
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Madeline Blaze
•The TCJA reduced the marriage penalty for many brackets, but didn't eliminate it entirely. It's still possible at higher income levels and in certain situations. The withholding issue is exactly the problem. When you're both set to "single" on your W-4s, each employer calculates withholding as if that's your only income and you'll take the standard deduction as a single filer. They don't know about your spouse's income or your mortgage interest deduction. At your combined income level, you need to have additional withholding to account for the tax on your total household income.
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Emma Swift
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Isabella Tucker
•How does this work exactly? Does it just look at your current return or does it actually compare previous years too? I'm in the same boat and trying to figure out what happened.
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Jayden Hill
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Emma Swift
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Isabella Tucker
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Zoe Wang
Hate to be that person, but this marriage tax situation was a major reason my partner and I decided not to get legally married. We did the math with our accountant and realized we'd pay about $4,500 MORE per year in taxes if we got married (we both make similar six-figure incomes). It's bizarre that the tax code effectively penalizes some married couples. We had a commitment ceremony instead and keep our finances and tax filings separate. Not the right choice for everyone, but something to consider if the marriage tax hit is substantial.
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Connor Richards
•Does your accountant take into consideration things like health insurance, Social Security survivor benefits, inheritance laws, etc? The tax piece is just one part of the financial picture of marriage. Curious how those other factors weighed in.
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Zoe Wang
•Yes, we did a comprehensive analysis. For our specific situation (both have good employer health insurance, substantial retirement savings, and have proper estate planning with attorneys), the tax penalty outweighed other benefits by a significant margin. We're fortunate to be in a state that has strong domestic partnership protections. We don't have children and have advanced healthcare directives in place. It's definitely not a one-size-fits-all decision, but the tax impact was too substantial for us to ignore.
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Grace Durand
Everyone's talking about withholdings but what about your mortgage interest? When you were single, whoever claimed the mortgage got a big tax benefit relative to their solo income. Now that $28k interest is spread across your combined higher income, making it proportionally less impactful. Plus, are you still itemizing? Many married couples find they're better off with the standard deduction ($25,900 for 2022) than itemizing, especially if mortgage interest is your main deduction. Could be another part of your surprise tax bill.
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Steven Adams
•This is an excellent point that many people miss. When you combine incomes but have the same deductions, those deductions have less "power" to reduce your overall tax liability.
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