First time filing taxes as married couple and completely confused about owing money

My husband and I tied the knot in August last year. We've been living together for a while but this is our first tax season as a married couple. My income is around $187k His income is about $95k When we filed separately last year (unmarried), we received roughly $12k in combined refunds. This was largely due to my $29k in mortgage interest deduction since I own our home. We haven't adjusted our W-4s at all, so we're still having taxes withheld at the "single" rate, which should be taking out the maximum. I thought this would result in a bigger refund, but instead we're suddenly OWING money filing jointly. I was under the impression that getting married would actually be beneficial tax-wise, especially with the income gap between us. The wider tax brackets were supposed to save us money according to everything I've read. Can someone please explain what's happening here? Did we miss something obvious or is the "marriage benefit" just a myth for our income levels?

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37 comments

Issac Nightingale

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What's happening here is that you're experiencing what's sometimes called the "marriage penalty." While it's true that marriage can benefit couples with disparate incomes, at your combined income level ($282k), you're hitting higher tax brackets that can offset those benefits. The most likely culprit is your withholding. When you're both selecting "Single" on your W-4s, the system assumes each of you is the only income earner in your household. But when you combine incomes on a joint return, your total household income pushes more money into higher tax brackets than what was withheld for. For example, in 2024, the 32% bracket starts at $190,750 for married filing jointly, but doesn't start until $95,375 for single filers. Your withholding was calculated as two separate single people, but your actual tax is calculated as one married unit. I'd recommend updating your W-4s to reflect your married status and use the "Two Jobs" checkbox or the multiple jobs worksheet if both of you work. This will help avoid owing next year.

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Issac Nightingale

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The marriage penalty typically affects couples when both spouses earn higher incomes. Even with your income difference, your combined income puts you in higher brackets than what your withholding anticipated. Filing separately is rarely beneficial for most couples and often results in losing certain deductions and credits. Most couples in your situation will still pay less overall by filing jointly, but the withholding is what caught you off guard. Updating your W-4s to "Married" with the proper adjustments for two incomes is definitely the better long-term solution.

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QuantumQuasar

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What you're experiencing is commonly known as the "marriage penalty" though it doesn't always work that way. The marriage penalty or bonus depends on your specific situation. Here's what could be happening: When you were filing single, you both got to take advantage of the lower tax brackets individually. Now that you're married filing jointly, your combined income pushes you into higher tax brackets faster. Also, while you had $29k in mortgage interest, the standard deduction for married filing jointly ($27,700 for 2023) is less than double the single standard deduction ($13,850 each). So you might not be benefiting as much from itemizing as you did when filing single. Plus, if you're both still withholding at the "single" rate, that's not necessarily withholding more. The "single" rate is often less than the "married" rate at higher incomes. I'd recommend using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator to adjust your W-4s for this year to avoid owing next year.

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QuantumQuasar

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Filing separately is rarely beneficial for most couples. The married filing separately status actually has some of the least favorable tax rules - you lose several credits and deductions including student loan interest, and the tax brackets are less generous. There are a few scenarios where it might help: if one spouse has significant medical expenses (over 7.5% of AGI), income-based student loan payments, or if there are liability concerns (one spouse may have tax issues you don't want to be responsible for).

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Butch Sledgehammer

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Another thing nobody's mentioned - check if you're still itemizing vs taking the standard deduction. When you're married filing jointly in 2024, the standard deduction is $27,700. If your main itemized deduction was $29k in mortgage interest, you're only getting a benefit of $1,300 above the standard deduction. When you were single, the standard deduction was only $13,850, so your $29k mortgage interest gave you a much bigger benefit - around $15,150 more than the standard deduction. This could be a major factor in why you're seeing such a big difference!

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Butch Sledgehammer

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This is unfortunately one of those aspects of the "marriage tax penalty" that's just built into the tax code. The standard deduction for married couples is exactly twice the single amount, but when one spouse has large itemized deductions, you can't split them up anymore when filing jointly. Your main solution is to make sure your withholding is correct going forward by updating your W-4s. The "Two Earners/Multiple Jobs" section of the W-4 is specifically designed to address this situation. You might also consider making quarterly estimated tax payments if you expect to owe again next year. Some couples with similar situations also increase charitable giving to boost their itemized deductions, but that's a personal financial decision beyond just tax planning.

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Fatima Al-Suwaidi

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The most important thing you need to do RIGHT NOW is adjust your W-4s with your employers. You're both still withholding at the single rate, which isn't enough for your combined income as married. The simplest fix is to use the IRS Withholding Estimator (Google it) and follow the recommendations exactly. For two high earners like you, you'll likely need to withhold an additional specific dollar amount from each paycheck. This won't fix last year's taxes, but it will prevent you from owing again next year. I learned this the hard way after my first year of marriage too!

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Fatima Al-Suwaidi

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Yes, unfortunately, it can be this dramatic, especially with your income levels. The "marriage bonus" typically happens when one spouse earns significantly more than the other or when one spouse doesn't work at all. When both spouses earn good incomes (like in your case), you can actually face a "marriage penalty" because your combined income pushes you into higher tax brackets faster. The tax code has been adjusted over the years to reduce this penalty, but it still exists, especially at higher income levels. The withholding adjustment will definitely help going forward. Some couples also increase their pre-tax retirement contributions or look for additional deductions to help offset this effect.

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Sofia Morales

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This is actually a common misconception. Married Filing Separately almost always results in a higher tax bill than Married Filing Jointly. MFS has higher tax rates, lower thresholds for higher brackets, disqualifies you from many credits and deductions (like student loan interest, EIC, education credits), and prevents you from taking the standard deduction if your spouse itemizes. The only time MFS makes sense is in very specific situations like income-based student loan repayment, one spouse having huge medical expenses, or liability protection concerns.

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