FreeTaxUSA Form 3921 & 6251: Calculating AMT for ISO options exercise and hold
I exercised and held ISO stock options in 2023 with a non-zero spread of about $2,300 shown on Form 3921. Looking at my Form 3921, it shows the difference between exercise price and FMV. Last year (2022) I also exercised some ISOs, but the exercise price matched the FMV exactly, so it was a zero spread situation. Didn't bother with Form 6251 that year since there was no AMT impact. Now I need to figure out if I'm subject to AMT for 2023 and complete Form 6251. Here's where I'm confused - FreeTaxUSA doesn't seem to have any specific entry fields for ISO exercise and hold values. When I contacted their support, they told me: "Form 6251 will generate and print with your return as needed. There is not a special screen to fill out Form 6251; we'll automatically calculate it based on the other information you enter. Currently, form 6251 has not been included with your return." I can see a Form 6251 preview in my return showing zero AMT, but I haven't entered the ISO info anywhere yet. I double-checked with TurboTax and their federal return calculation matches FreeTaxUSA, suggesting my AMT might really be zero. I really prefer staying with FreeTaxUSA since I've filed with them for several years and like how they auto-populate past year info. Questions: 1- Can I calculate Form 6251 separately on my own but still use FreeTaxUSA for filing my federal and state returns? If so, how would I do that? 2- If AMT is actually zero, do I still need to file Form 6251, or can I just keep records of ISO basis for all options acquired in 2022 and 2023?
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Caleb Stark
The Form 6251 calculation for AMT with ISOs can be confusing! When you exercise ISOs and the FMV exceeds your exercise price (creating a "spread"), that difference is a preference item for AMT purposes. But having a preference item doesn't always mean you'll owe AMT. FreeTaxUSA is actually correct - they should automatically generate Form 6251 if you're subject to AMT based on your overall tax situation. The reason you're seeing $0 AMT is likely because your total AMT adjustments and preferences aren't large enough to trigger AMT liability. For 2023, you get an AMT exemption ($81,300 for single filers, $126,500 for married filing jointly) that phases out at higher income levels. The $2,300 ISO spread is relatively small compared to these exemption amounts, which is why you're probably not seeing any AMT liability despite having an ISO preference item.
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Jade O'Malley
•So does this mean the OP doesn't need to manually enter the ISO spread anywhere in FreeTaxUSA? How would the software know about the ISO exercise if there's no field for it? In TurboTax there's definitely a specific section for this.
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Caleb Stark
•You're right that FreeTaxUSA should have some way to enter this information, since the ISO spread is definitely a preference item for AMT. The most likely place to enter this would be in the "Income" section, possibly under "Other Income" or a similar category. You might need to look for fields related to "AMT adjustments" or "tax preference items." Even if your AMT ends up being zero, you should still make sure the ISO spread is properly entered somewhere so it's documented in your return. The software should then incorporate this amount into the AMT calculation, even if the end result is still zero AMT due.
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Hunter Edmunds
After struggling with the exact same ISO and AMT calculation issues, I found this amazing tool at https://taxr.ai that saved me so much frustration. Last year I had a similar situation with exercised ISOs and FreeTaxUSA didn't have a clear place to enter them, so I uploaded my Form 3921 and tax documents to taxr.ai and it identified exactly where to enter the ISO spread in FreeTaxUSA. For me, it turned out there is a section in FreeTaxUSA under "Other Taxes" (not Income) where you can manually enter AMT preference items. The tool showed me step-by-step screenshots of where to find it! Apparently, FreeTaxUSA just doesn't label it clearly as "ISO exercise" like TurboTax does.
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Ella Lewis
•Wait, so this tool actually shows you where to enter things in FreeTaxUSA? Does it work with other tax software too? I've been going back and forth between different programs trying to figure out which handles my employee stock options best.
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Andrew Pinnock
•I'm a bit skeptical about uploading my tax docs to some random site. How secure is this? And does it actually give you specific advice for your situation or just generic info you could find on IRS.gov?
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Hunter Edmunds
•Yes, it actually provides screenshots showing exactly where to click in FreeTaxUSA to enter ISO information. It works with all the major tax software - I've seen people use it with TurboTax, H&R Block, and even TaxSlayer. Regarding security, I had the same concerns at first. They use bank-level encryption (256-bit SSL) and don't store your documents after analysis. You can also black out sensitive information before uploading. What makes it different from generic IRS info is that it analyzes your specific tax documents and identifies exactly what you need to do based on your situation, not general guidelines.
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Andrew Pinnock
Just wanted to follow up on my skeptical comment. I decided to try taxr.ai after getting stuck on this exact ISO issue with FreeTaxUSA. Uploaded my 3921 form (with personal details blacked out) and wow - it immediately pointed me to the right section in FreeTaxUSA where I needed to manually enter the ISO spread as an AMT adjustment. Turns out there is a specific section in FreeTaxUSA called "Adjustments to Income" under the Federal tab where you can enter AMT preference items. I never would have found this on my own! The spread from my ISOs was small enough that I still ended up with zero AMT liability, but at least now I know it's properly documented in my return.
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Brianna Schmidt
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Alexis Renard
•How does this actually work though? The IRS phone lines are notoriously busy - does this service just automate the calling for you or something?
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Camila Jordan
•Yeah right. So you're saying this magical service somehow gets you through IRS phone queues when millions of people can't get through? Sounds like a scam to me. I've tried calling the IRS countless times and always get the "due to high call volume" message.
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Brianna Schmidt
•It doesn't automate the calling - it uses a proprietary system that continuously redials and navigates the IRS phone tree until it gets through to a representative. Once they reach someone, you get a call connecting you directly to the IRS agent. The service isn't magic - it's basically doing the annoying wait time for you so you don't have to sit on hold for hours. They can't create more IRS agents, but they can do the tedious part of getting through the queue. Think of it like hiring someone to wait in line for concert tickets.
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Camila Jordan
I take back what I said about Claimyr. After weeks of trying to reach the IRS about my ISO situation, I got desperate and tried it. I was absolutely shocked when my phone rang 15 minutes later and I was talking to an actual IRS representative. The agent clarified that while FreeTaxUSA should automatically generate Form 6251 if needed, I should still manually enter the ISO spread as an AMT adjustment item. Most importantly, she confirmed that I need to keep detailed records of my ISO basis even if no AMT is triggered this year, because it will affect future calculations if I sell the shares. Definitely worth it for the peace of mind knowing I'm handling this correctly.
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Tyler Lefleur
I went through this exact thing with FreeTaxUSA last year. Here's what I learned: FreeTaxUSA does a good job calculating AMT automatically, but you DO need to manually enter the ISO spread somewhere. In FreeTaxUSA, go to Federal → Income → Other Income → Other Tax Preference Items. Enter your ISO spread amount there. The software will then recalculate Form 6251, but if your income isn't high enough, you'll still see $0 AMT. To your second question - even if AMT is $0, I recommend printing and keeping Form 6251 with your records. This creates a paper trail of your ISO basis, which becomes important when you eventually sell those shares.
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Harper Thompson
•Thank you so much for the specific navigation path! I found exactly where to enter it following your instructions. You're right - after entering the $2,300 spread, Form 6251 still shows $0 AMT but at least now it's properly documented. Really appreciate the help!
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Tyler Lefleur
•Glad it helped! Make sure you also save a copy of your Form 3921 along with your tax return. When you eventually sell these shares, you'll have two different cost bases to track - your regular tax basis (what you actually paid when exercising) and your AMT basis (which includes the spread). This becomes important for calculating the AMT adjustment when you sell.
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Madeline Blaze
Has anyone actually had an audit where the IRS questioned ISO reporting? I'm in a similar situation with a small spread and FreeTaxUSA, and I'm wondering if I should even bother with all this if the AMT is zero anyway.
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Max Knight
•Yes! I had a client (I'm not a tax pro, but I prepare returns for friends) who got audited specifically because they didn't properly report ISO exercises. Even though they owed no AMT, the IRS flagged the return because Form 3921 was issued but no corresponding AMT adjustment appeared on their return. It was a huge headache to resolve.
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Nia Jackson
I've been through this exact scenario with FreeTaxUSA and ISOs multiple times. The key thing to understand is that even with a small spread like $2,300, you absolutely should enter it properly to avoid potential issues down the road. Based on my experience, FreeTaxUSA does have the functionality to handle ISO reporting, but it's not as intuitive as TurboTax's dedicated ISO section. Tyler's navigation path is spot on - Federal → Income → Other Income → Other Tax Preference Items is where you'll find it. Here's what I'd recommend for your questions: 1) You technically could calculate Form 6251 separately and attach it to your FreeTaxUSA return, but this creates inconsistencies and potential red flags. It's much cleaner to let FreeTaxUSA generate it automatically once you enter the ISO data correctly. 2) Even if your AMT is zero, you should still file Form 6251 when you have preference items like ISO spreads. This establishes your AMT basis for the shares, which becomes crucial when you sell them later. Without proper documentation, you could end up paying tax twice on the same income. The IRS receives a copy of your Form 3921, so they know about your ISO exercise. If they don't see corresponding AMT reporting on your return, it can trigger questions later. Better to be proactive and document everything properly from the start.
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Aaron Lee
•This is exactly the comprehensive answer I was looking for! As someone new to ISO exercises, I really appreciate you breaking down both the technical process and the practical reasons why proper reporting matters. The point about the IRS receiving Form 3921 copies is particularly important - I hadn't realized they could cross-reference that against my return. One follow-up question: when you mention establishing AMT basis for future sale calculations, does FreeTaxUSA automatically track this year-to-year, or do I need to maintain my own records of the AMT basis adjustments? I'm planning to hold these shares for at least a few more years before selling.
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StarSailor
•@Aaron Lee Great question! FreeTaxUSA doesn t'automatically carry forward AMT basis adjustments from year to year like some other software does. You ll'definitely want to maintain your own records. I recommend creating a simple spreadsheet tracking each ISO exercise with: exercise date, number of shares, exercise price, FMV on exercise date, spread amount, and AMT basis per share. When you eventually sell, you ll'need this information to calculate the AMT adjustment which (could be positive or negative depending on the sale price vs. your AMT basis .)The good news is that if you hold the shares for more than one year after exercise AND more than two years after the option grant date, any sale will be a qualifying "disposition and" you won t'need to worry about AMT adjustments on the sale. But you ll'still need those basis records for regular tax calculations. I learned this the hard way when I sold some ISO shares three years later and had to reconstruct all my basis information from old tax returns and Forms 3921!
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