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Form 1120-S business activity change if income is 0 from previous business but still own rental?

I sold my small business in 2022 but still have the LLC that's set up as an S-corp. The LLC owns a rental property through a disregarded entity. Here's my situation - the 1120-S currently shows $0 income from the original business activity, which was listed as "service" on previous returns. But now I'm only getting rental income (reported on Form 8825) from the disregarded entity owned by the S-corp. My question is should I change the business activity code from "service" to "real estate" on the 1120-S even though the service income shows as $0? I'm worried that the EIN might be registered under the service business activity with the IRS, and changing it could cause a mismatch or trigger something. Not sure what's the right approach here since I don't have the original business anymore, just the rental property.

Yes, you should update your business activity code to accurately reflect your current operations. Since you've sold the service business and now only have rental activities, changing the code to real estate would be appropriate. The business activity code on Form 1120-S is meant to identify the primary business activity and source of income. When your primary activity changes, the code should be updated accordingly. The IRS uses these codes for statistical purposes and to help process returns correctly. Don't worry about your EIN - it's tied to your entity, not to a specific business activity. Your EIN will remain valid even when you change the business activity code. The IRS understands that businesses evolve and change their activities over time.

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Paolo Conti

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Thanks for the advice! But I'm still a bit confused. Does changing the code require any extra forms or notification to the IRS besides just putting the new code on the 1120-S? And what exactly would be the right real estate code to use for rental property? There seem to be several options.

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You don't need to file any additional forms or send special notifications to the IRS. Simply enter the new business activity code on your Form 1120-S when you file your next return. For rental real estate activities, the most common codes are 531110 (Lessors of Residential Buildings and Dwellings) or 531120 (Lessors of Nonresidential Buildings except Miniwarehouses). Choose the one that best describes your rental property type. The complete list of codes can be found in the instructions for Form 1120-S.

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Malik Davis

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You definitely need to change the code! I didn't update mine after shifting from retail to wholesale and ended up with a letter from the IRS questioning the mismatch between my reported income types and business code. Not a full audit but still a headache to resolve. The business code should reflect your primary source of income or business activity. Since your only income now is from the rental property, you should use a real estate rental code. As others mentioned, look at the 531110 or 531120 codes depending on your property type.

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Did you have to pay any penalties when you got that letter? I'm in a similar situation but have been putting off dealing with it.

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Malik Davis

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No penalties in my case, thankfully. I just had to respond to the letter explaining the situation and file an amended return with the correct business code. They seemed satisfied with that. I wouldn't put it off though. The longer you wait, the more returns you might potentially need to amend if they decide you need to correct previous years. Better to fix it now and move forward with the right code.

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StarStrider

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I'm confused about something - if the S-corp owns a disregarded entity that has the rental, why are you even filing Form 8825? Shouldn't the rental income just be reported directly on the 1120-S since the disregarded entity doesn't exist for tax purposes?

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Ravi Gupta

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That's not quite right. Form 8825 is specifically for reporting rental real estate income for S corporations, partnerships, and certain trusts. Even though the LLC is a disregarded entity for federal tax purposes, the S-corp still needs to report the rental activity on Form 8825, which then flows to the 1120-S.

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Salim Nasir

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I've been through this exact scenario! When I transitioned my S-corp from consulting to rental real estate, I was also worried about changing the business activity code mid-stream. Here's what I learned: You absolutely should update the code to reflect your current primary activity. Since rental income is now your only source of revenue, using a service code would be misleading and could potentially trigger correspondence from the IRS down the line. For the specific code, I used 531110 (Lessors of Residential Buildings and Dwellings) for my residential rental property. If you have commercial property, 531120 would be more appropriate. The change is as simple as entering the new code on your next 1120-S - no additional forms or notifications required. One thing to consider: make sure your rental activity documentation is solid since this will now be your primary business activity. Keep detailed records of rental income, expenses, and any capital improvements since the IRS may scrutinize rental activities more closely than other business types. Your EIN stays the same regardless of the activity change, so don't worry about any registration mismatches. The IRS expects businesses to evolve over time.

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Henry Delgado

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This is really helpful, thanks for sharing your experience! I'm curious about the documentation part you mentioned - what specific records did you find most important to maintain for the rental activity? I've been pretty casual about my record-keeping since it was just a side income before, but now that it's becoming the primary business activity, I want to make sure I'm doing it right from the start.

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Olivia Harris

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and wanted to add something that might be helpful. When you change your business activity code from service to real estate, make sure you also review your depreciation schedules if you have any assets from the old business that you're still depreciating. I ran into an issue where some of my old business equipment was still being depreciated under the service business classification, but after changing to real estate, the IRS questioned whether those assets were still being used in the business or if they should be treated as personal use items. It wasn't a huge deal, but I had to provide documentation showing that the computer equipment was still being used for managing the rental property business. Also, since you're now primarily in real estate, you might want to look into whether you qualify for any real estate professional tax benefits if you're spending significant time on the rental activity. The rules are pretty specific, but if you meet them, there could be some tax advantages with passive activity loss limitations. The business activity code change itself is straightforward - just use the new code on your next return. But these related considerations might save you some headaches down the road.

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