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ERC full vs partial suspension test criteria - what qualifies for Employee Retention Credit?

Hey guys, I'm getting confused with this whole Employee Retention Credit thing for my small business. I own a restaurant that was affected during those shutdown periods, and I'm trying to figure out if we qualify under the full or partial suspension test. We were allowed to stay open for takeout and delivery, but our dining room was completely closed for about 4 months in 2020 and then had capacity restrictions for another 6 months after that. Indoor dining is like 70% of our normal business. I've heard mixed things about whether this counts as a "partial suspension" for the ERC. My accountant mentioned something about needing to show our operations were limited in a "more than nominal" way, but I'm not clear what that actually means in practice. Is it based on revenue drop? Or just the fact that we couldn't operate normally? Anyone have experience with this specific test for the ERC? I know there's also the gross receipts test, but we might not qualify under that one for all quarters.

Amara Torres

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The full vs partial suspension test for the Employee Retention Credit is definitely confusing! I've helped several clients navigate this. For restaurants like yours, here's what matters: you need to show that a government order caused either a full or partial suspension of your business operations. Based on what you described, you were clearly under a partial suspension when your dining room was closed or had capacity restrictions. The "more than nominal" part means the limitation needs to have a meaningful impact on your business. The IRS guidance says if the suspended portion of your business is 10% or more of your total operations (measured by 2019 gross receipts or hours worked), then it's considered "more than nominal." Since indoor dining was 70% of your business, you easily meet this threshold. The key is documenting the specific government orders that restricted your operations and being able to show how they impacted your normal business model. You'll need to identify exactly which quarters you were under these restrictions. For each qualifying quarter, you can claim the credit even if your revenue didn't drop significantly.

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Thanks for this explanation! So even though we were allowed to do takeout and delivery during the shutdown, we can still qualify because indoor dining was such a big part of our business? And how do I actually document this "more than nominal" impact? Do I need to show financial records comparing dine-in vs takeout revenue from before the pandemic?

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Amara Torres

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Yes, you absolutely can qualify! The fact that you could still do takeout doesn't disqualify you. Since indoor dining was 70% of your business, you easily clear the "more than nominal" threshold. For documentation, gather copies of the specific government orders that restricted your operations (usually from your state or local government). Then prepare a simple analysis showing what percentage of your business was impacted. You can use 2019 financial records to show the proportion of dine-in vs takeout revenue, or even documentation of hours worked or square footage dedicated to dine-in service. What matters is demonstrating the significant impact these restrictions had on your normal operations.

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Mason Kaczka

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How long did the process take with that tool? I'm interested but wondering if it's worth the time investment. Did you still need your accountant to file the actual forms?

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Sophia Russo

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I'm a bit skeptical about using tools for something this complex. How does it actually determine if you meet the "more than nominal" test? Does it just take your word for it or does it actually analyze your financial data?

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The entire process took me about 45 minutes to complete once I had all my documents ready. It was much faster than the weeks I spent trying to figure it out on my own or paying my accountant for additional hours of research. The tool does a deep analysis of your specific situation. It doesn't just take your word for it - you upload your financial data and the government orders that affected your business, and it analyzes them to determine if you meet the "more than nominal" test. It looks at metrics like your 2019 revenue breakdown, hours of service affected, and square footage impacted by the restrictions. Then it creates a detailed report that shows exactly how your business qualifies under the suspension test with all the supporting documentation organized properly.

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Sophia Russo

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Just wanted to add some additional clarity on the "more than nominal" test for ERC qualification, since I see some confusion here: The IRS has two ways to meet this test: 1. The suspended part of your business operations represented at least 10% of your total gross receipts in 2019 2. The suspended part of your business represented at least 10% of the total hours of service performed by all your employees in 2019 For restaurants with closed dining rooms, this is usually very easy to prove. Even businesses with less obvious impacts like manufacturers with reduced capacity or service businesses with limits on in-person meetings can often qualify. Just make sure you keep solid documentation of the specific government orders that caused your suspension and be ready to show how they impacted your normal operations in a significant way.

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Do capacity restrictions always count as a partial suspension? Our retail store had to limit to 50% capacity but we rarely hit that limit anyway on normal days.

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Capacity restrictions don't automatically qualify as a partial suspension if they didn't actually impact your normal operations. If your store rarely reached 50% capacity even before restrictions, then the capacity limit likely didn't cause a "more than nominal" effect on your business. However, if you had other operational changes like implementing social distancing that reduced how many customers could shop at once, one-way aisles that limited access to merchandise, or restrictions on certain services you normally provide, those could collectively qualify as a partial suspension. The key is being able to demonstrate that government orders had a meaningful impact on how you normally conduct business.

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Grace Lee

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Has anyone actually received their ERC refund yet? I qualified under the partial suspension test and filed amended 941s almost a year ago. Still nothing!

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Mia Roberts

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I got mine after 8 months. They're definitely processing them, just super slow. I called the IRS (using that Claimyr service someone mentioned above) and they told me they're working through a massive backlog of claims.

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NebulaNinja

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I've been following this thread with interest since I'm dealing with a similar situation. My consulting firm had to transition from in-person client meetings to virtual only for about 8 months in 2020-2021 due to government restrictions. What's been helpful from reading everyone's experiences is understanding that the "more than nominal" test isn't just about revenue drops - it's about operational changes. In our case, we had to completely restructure how we delivered services, which definitely impacted more than 10% of our normal operations. One thing I'd add for anyone still figuring this out: keep detailed records of exactly when government orders went into effect and ended in your area. I created a timeline showing the specific dates restrictions changed, which quarters they affected, and how our operations were modified during each period. This documentation has been crucial for substantiating our claim. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences with the various tools and services - it's reassuring to know there are resources available to help navigate this complex process.

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Zadie Patel

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm in a similar boat with my marketing agency - we had to shift from in-person strategy sessions and workshops to all virtual delivery for about 10 months. I've been second-guessing whether this counts as a "partial suspension" since we could still technically provide services, just differently. Your point about creating a timeline is spot on. I just started putting together a document showing the progression of restrictions in my state and how they forced us to modify our service delivery model. It's become clear that even though we adapted, the government orders definitely suspended our normal way of operating. Did you end up qualifying for multiple quarters? I'm trying to figure out if the transitions between different restriction levels (like when capacity limits changed from 25% to 50% to 75%) each count as separate qualifying periods or if it's more about the overall suspension period.

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Liam Murphy

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Reading through this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my fitness studio. We were forced to close completely for 3 months in 2020, then allowed to reopen but with severe capacity restrictions (from 40 people per class down to 8) and no group fitness classes allowed - which was about 60% of our revenue. I've been hesitant to claim the ERC because I wasn't sure if the capacity restrictions counted as a "partial suspension" once we reopened. But based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like we clearly meet the "more than nominal" threshold since group classes were such a significant part of our operations. The documentation advice about keeping records of specific government orders is spot on. I still have all the health department notices that detailed exactly when restrictions changed and what we were/weren't allowed to do. One question for those who've been through this process: when calculating qualified wages, do you include wages paid to employees who were working reduced hours due to the capacity restrictions, or only wages paid during periods of complete closure? The IRS guidance on this specific scenario has been confusing. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences - it's made me much more confident about moving forward with our claim!

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